What your choice speakers with spikes or speakers with a vibration isolation device?


I am in the camp of vibration isolation. I think it makes sense that the less energy transfer into the floor goes into the air. I found these really cool magnetic isolation feet that I’ve never seen before. They are very affordable, the guys are from England. Here’s a link, The company is called solid air audio.https://solidairaudio.com
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I found it:

Auralex SubDude ($70-$80).

I had confused it with another platform manufacturer who makes stands that look like square/rectangular scissor/baby gates.

Anyway, the SubDude is reviewed to be a good choice for suspended wood floors.

When I had wood floors in the 70's/80's I used carpet padding and horse hair pads under Rogers AB1's, but they probably only went down to 40 Hz (if that).

DeKay
The other brand is Isoacoustics, which I've seen @ Guitar Center.

They have a sub platform that's $50-$60.

DeKay
I’d never go back to spikes.

Can’t believe how I fell for all that crap, for so long.

Right now I’m listening to Astral Weeks (first time this year!). No spikes, just a wonderfully organic sound with plenty of natural decay everywhere.


I have Vandersteen 5A's on spikes as factory recommends.   I tried Herbes gizmos ....absolutely ruined the sound. Each system is different and everyone should try them all to know for sure.
stringreen,

Herbie's gizmos "absolutely ruined the sound"

I've no doubt that's what you experienced, but I have to say in my experience I have yet to encounter any loudspeaker that didn't sound better with some form of isolation underneath. Even my portable Sony radio sounds a tad better when placed upon a compliant surface.

It's certainly possible that many loudspeakers were designed to be placed on spikes, and that's where they will measure and sound best. I just haven't encountered one like that yet, but that is far from conclusive.

It would be good to have designer feedback here, as the only thing I've read was by Alan Shaw from Harbeth who once said he was happy to test his top of the range M40s placed on top of some telephone directories.

However these are only just my impressions, and I prefer an organic midrange sound to one that might be deemed to have a tight precise bass output. This should be easy enough to test, at least with my radio, once I can get someone willing to assist me in a blindfold experiment without too much derision.

Anyway the evidence, what there is, seems to come in the form of baffle accelerometer readings which heavily favour any compliant feet over any spikes.

However panel resonance is a tricky business as this article tries to demonstrate.

http://www.tonestack.net/articles/speaker-building/cabinet-sound-insulation-measurement.html

In any case the old argument about Newton's first law of motion is not very helpful here. The forces generated by the movement of the low mass cone in comparison to the large mass of the cabinet are virtually insignificant.

For the driver motion to actually move the speaker, the cabinet would need to be placed on a very low friction surface and the volume output would have to be comparitvely huge, with huge panel resonances to match.