Soundlab owners - room placement question


Next week I am getting some newly updated M3's from Soundlab. This is the first time I have tried an ESL and I am looking for some advice.

Where should I start for room placement? I understand it will take some time to move them around from this starting point for best results, but love to hear what other Soundlab owners are doing.

My room;

18.5 feet wide
24 feet long
8 foot ceilings
Carpet over concrete floor
No window to deal with
My room so anything goes!
Not open to any other room
300 watt SS amps combined with tube preamp
Listening position is flexible - again my room!
No sub right now - that could change if needed

Appreciate your thoughts.
128x128grannyring
The most critical setup dimension, in my opinion, is the distance between the back of the panel and the wall behind the speaker. In general, the more the better; you are adding delay to the arrival of the backwave energy, and the more the better. If you can do 7 feet, great. In my opinion 3.5 feet is the minimum; less than that and you probably should get the Sallie or make your own equivalent.

I used fake ficus trees to diffuse the backwave energy at the first reflection zones on the wall behind the speaker. This is where you could place mirrors and see the back of either panel from the listening position.

Distance to the sidewalls is up to you, but I'd say nine feet between the panels (roughly eleven feet center-to-center) is a decent starting point. They can go within inches of the sidewalls if needed.

Now I usually like some diffusion at the first sidewall reflection zones as well, those being where a mirror up against the side wall would show a reflection of the front of the panel from the listening position.

As for toe-in, the nice thing about SoundLabs is the tonal balance stays pretty much the same across whatever arc the speakers cover (60 degrees for the M-3). So playing with the toe-in is adjusting the relative amounts of energy going toward the side walls vs towards the middle, without adjusting the tonal balance. If a fairly strong toe-in works for you, that would probably eliminate any need for diffusion on the side walls.

Finally, measure the distance from panel to center of the sweet spot to within 1/8", and from there you can fine-tune by ear. Yup, there is an improvement in imaging from being that exact. Eyeball the panels to make sure they are both at the same vertical angle, and fix it with shims under the feet of one of them if necessary.

The above is for a "conventional" setup. Feel free to try whatever unconventional setup you feel inspired to; SoundLabs are a lot more flexible than most people realize. I had one customer who set his SoundLabs up in a "nearfield" configuration, so close to his listening chair that he could lean forward and touch them. Obviously this was a one-person setup, but it was pretty amazing for that one person.

Finally, feel free to e-mail me if you have further questions.

Best wishes,

Duke LeJeune
dealer/manufacturer/longtime SoundLab guy
Hello ,

Starting position:

Set the speakers up 11-12 feet from the back wall and 2 feet from the side walls.. Set your listening chair on the back wall and move forward until you have a lock on your soundstage (usually 2-3 feet from back wall) or were it works best for you...

You can move the speakers in until the focus in the middle is optimized with just a slight toe in for focus, room treatment will be a must with some diffusion necessary...

This setup will work very well with your Soundlabs !