***Going Insane***End Game Speakers***Harbeth Verity or Living Voice***


Had been enjoying the LSA Monitor 1’s driven by the wonderful little Quad VA-One tube amp for the last 6 months when a nice Christmas Bonus was turned into a gently used pair of Fritz Carbon 7SE’s just this week...Within 24 hours of setting them up I hit the slots for a neat chunk o change and if I moved the Carbon 7’s out I could afford either the Harbeth M30.2 Anniversary or the Living Voice Avatar R3 or a pair of Demo Verity Audio Finn’s...No way to demo either the Verity or the Living Voice...Amp likely will not change as I REALLY love the sound the little Quad amp makes so it’s 15wpc. would be absolute minimum power on the Harbeths,not to bad into the 8ohm/91 db.Finns & would probably rock the Living Voice at 94db.sensitivity..If I ever do change amps it would be for a SimAudio Moon 240i...
Room size is apx.12’x14’x8’,well treated and I value an organic,natural sound with good timbre,soundstaging & imaging..What do you guys think?
freediver
I auditioned the LIVING VOICE AVATARS at a dealer

They were driven by CROFT separates [tubes], a  DENSEN cdp, and cabled with an all top LFD cable array.

Lovely..... engaging ......full stop.

caution ...... the LVAs are finicky and perform at their best with a careful matching of associated equipment.


(1) The CROFT, DENSEN and LFD were a very significant step up upstream with a large multiple step up in both cost and build with an implied performance upgrade in lockstep, when compared to your QUAD

(2) I wouldn’t get influenced by their higher efficiency alone.

(3) If you can’t audition them personally then it’s a BIG roll of the dice (emphasis added ) with your current QUAD and your unspecified source and listening room acoustic warts.
FWIW .... I would not buy them blind .
"End Game" and "can't audition" don't belong in the post, especially if your are tied to a 15w amp. If you change the equation to "best guess" and "for a while or longer" then you are in a different situation. If you can't audition, buy used so you can think of it as an extended home demo, with option to flip at minimal loss if you decide to.

Speaker and amp pairings are critical, with 15w I wouldn't suggest risking it on anything tougher to drive than near 8ohms across the spectrum and >93db sensitivity. I agree, although the Harbeths are lovely, your amp is not a good match. Cheers,
Spencer
  • JBL 4367
  • Avantgarde Acoustics Duo XD or possibly Duo Mezzo
  • Wilson Audio Specialty Alexia Series 2
  • Rockport and Magico (not sure which models, but probably the ones in the 50-80k bracket)

These speakers would all qualify for end game for me. Anything more expensive might/could be worth it if I had that kind of budget (maybe when I’m retired in 40 years) but I still feel that kind of money would be better spent on a balanced system with carefully selected electronic components.

What do you guys think?

Law of diminishing returns?

If you really are in the grip of upgraditis, why not see if Fritz will take the Carbon's back in part exchange for some Carrera BE's.  Those are superb, and they will play very well with your little Quad.

While the Quad might drive the Harbeths, they really come alive with something a good deal more powerful, like a big Rogers tube integrated.