HDMI Terms and Troubles...

Many Sony receivers came out with HDMI inputs that were merely 'pass-through' and incapable of processing audio or video. These required an additional audio connection from the player and, for the HD audio codecs, that had to be multichannel analog cables.

Sony was less than candid about this 'feature' and disappointed a lot of users. It was in the user's manual and, while such practices are rare on decent modern AVRs, I still recommend downloading/reading the manual before purchase.

Kal

A bit confusing .
Are you using an HDMI cable from your Bluray player to your AVR ?

Is your AVR HDMI compatible ie. does it accept the above mentioned cable and have the ability to process the signal ?

Are you trying to get the audio signal from a bluray disc ?

Is the audio signal in one of the HD formats ?

Good luck.

"My problem is this...my Sony has 3 HDMI inputs and NONE of them will allow me to get the audio from that signal and go to the surrounds"

What model "Sony" are you referring to in this statement? TV? Or receiver?

To be honest here we do need some clarification in order to help.

If these are recent purchases I’m guessing here they should all be 1.3A HDMI.

If so what you have is a configuration problem or a couple of bad or wrong connections in the speaker area.

My problem is this...my Sony has 3 HDMI inputs and NONE of them will allow me to get the audio from that signal and go to the surrounds. I have to install additional audio cables from each source and essentially double my cable mess.

I’M GUESSING AGAIN HERE, BUT it sounds to me like you have not configured the sources or receiver correctly. Or your sources aren’t compatible with the Receiver.

I just want a simple clean look.

…eg., HDMI 1.3A DOES THAT FOR YOU.

I am seeking guidance in selecting a new center-piece for my setup. I do not need DSPs or separates, or any of the like... Just a simple tuner/receiver 5.1 unit with about

Why? Did you return the Sony ALREADY?

None of us know which model Sony you bought to begin with… or what level of HDMI it possesses, 1.0, 1.2, 1.3A, and the sajme thing on your other sources. Or how you did the configuration…. Yet.

To run the receiver as only 5.1 vs 7.1 the surrounds need to be connected to the surrounds…. NOT the rear surrounds. Then the appropriate config needs to be entered in the menu too… along with distance, type, cut off, etc…. UNLESS you went the Audacy setup way, using the microphone that came with the receiver.

BTW…. Not every cable channel or DVD has multichannel audio as a default.

I have both Sony and onkyo recievers. The sony es receiver does not have HDMI. The onkyo TX SR805 I own does. it is also 1.3A HDMI.

1.3A (if yours is as well) will decode the BR hi def audio and video signals. True HD... deep color (when available) etc. there shouldn't be any worries apart from the Sony rec you own perhaps, not seeing (hand shaking) with the other HDMI devices either…. If 1.3a is what they all are.

The owners manual will tell you what’s what for each device .
"Pass Thru" on my onkyo means the signal will be passed thru as is to the HDMI output device. Normally a display, TV, or projector that has HDMI. The audio however will be decoded by the way your audio outputs of the source device are connected. Mainly this is for video only. As if you have another video source connected in a non HDMI way, say via RCA or Svideo.

Check to ensure you picked the right setting here for your sources in the receivers menus.

if the audio outs from source to your Sony are done via coax or an optical cable the receiver will process them for you internally and output them to what ever compliment of speakers you have connected AND configured correctly on your receiver.

One of the things I liked about the Sony receivers was the AUTO FORMAT DECODE feature. utilizing or selecting this function enables the Sony receiver to automatically pick the audio format being supplied to it without your need to pick the right one. using this feature will be the easiest way to go... Just set it to that and forget it.

if the audio is 2ch... that's waht you'll get... if 5.1 Dolby then you'll get that... nothing else. UNLESS you go into the DSP menu and pick out another audio format you prefer over the default the receiver saw automatically.

Fill in the blanks for us and you’ll get better answers.

OK...here are all the details about my pieces in ensemble.

These items have HDMI output for which I need an input on the new reciever.
HD-DVR Cable Box (1080i)
HD-A2 Toshiba DVD Player (1080i /p with firmware upgrade)
SD-5000 Toshiba DVD Player (which I use for DIVX & WMA Discs from my PC) (1080i)
XBOX 360 Elite (1080i/p)?
Next, the TV is a Toshiba 51H84 (HD 1080i max) which has a single HDMI input.
Front speakers are a pair of Paradigm Monitors and the Center is also Paradigm.
The sub is a Mirage Omni12.
Rear Speakers are some misc JVCs I have had for many years that work well for my ears.
I will presume the HD-A2 player and Xbox mght have v1.3 HDMI but everything else may be too old.
The receiver is an STR-DG510

Typically I will use the AFD button to scroll through the different environments to find what sounds best based on the disc or input device selected.

ATTN:Blindjim
Do not all devices with HDMI output include the audio signal in that cable?...as well as other optional outputs...?

It appears as though my answers would be solved by getting the ONKYO TXSR806 or similar... at 650.00 that number is something the wife can NEVER know...lol
Some side work will have to be done first ;)
So, Onkyo or step up to a base Integra that meets my input/power needs?

I know that I cannot compare with what most of you put into your homes...but I am trying to make the best of what is available to me.
Any further inputs?