Apple Airport Express to DAC


Hi,

I have an evolution 100A and 50CD. When I run digital audio through an apple express via toslink to the 50CD DAC, it sound great, but there is "skipping". I searched online and couldn't find an immediate cause of this.

I am running Apple Airport Express to a Creek EVO 50CD DAC via minijack to toslink optical cable.  There is intermittent "skipping" that I cannot figure out. If I run minijack to RCA on the amplifier (EVO 100A), there is no skipping.  I asked creek support and this was the conversation:

creek: It sounds like there’s an issue in using that type of cable. This is not a true way of using an optical signal. I would suggest using the jack to phono rca lead as this will use the DAC in your Creek unit rather than the built-in DAC of the Apple product.

me: I'm confused. Running optical signal to my creek DAC is wrong? You suggest running minijack to RCA on the EVO 100A amplifier? How does the EVO 50CD get the digital signal from the EVO 100A?

creek: An optical signal can only be transmitted down an optical cable that’s terminated with TOSLINK blocks at both ends.There are no digital signals past between the Evolution 50CD and Evolution 100A. The signal is only analogue; not digital between these devises. I would suggest running an RCA phono cable from the pre-amp output of your Evolution 100A and plugging that signal into the jack socket of the Airport Express.

me: but the minijack out on the airport express is a combo analog/optical output. (picture of back of airport express from apple website showing analog/optical port).

creek: /crickets

Can anyone explain what I'm doing wrong?  Thanks for your help.

Cable: FosPower (3 Feet) 24K Gold Plated Toslink to Mini Toslink Digital Optical S/PDIF Audio Cable with Metal Connectors & Strain-Relief PVC Jacket.

Airport Express: whatever the latest version was with firmware updated.

128x128pandrus
Anyone using Apple TV for streaming Tidal? If so, how do you interface with the Tidal app for making your music selections?

My hunch it has something to do with how the computers handle the output through the AEX/Apple TV, and how each DAC responds to the digital stream in its own fashion.  I have no way of telling if the digital signal is "losing lock" or whatever (I am not an engineer).  All I know is that any configuration sending wireless digital signal to any of my outboard DACS results in occasional drops in the signal.

May be your power causing this.  If you are using multiple outlets and they are different phases of the AC power, this can cause a lot of common-mode noise on signals.  Try using the same outlet for the source, reclocker and DAC, no conditioners.

Another thing is if you have a cable box and the ground from that is not isolated from your house panel ground.  Use a Jensen transformer isolator in the RF cable if you have this.


Steve N.

Empirical Audio

@kalali I use Airfoil which can broadcast tidal from your computer to multiple airplay speakers. It will also send to Bluetooth and chromecast devices. 

The Apple TV set up properly just becomes an airplay speaker.