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My Home Speakers, My Car, and Me...The Ballad of What's Going Wrong?

Okay, so tell me what's going wrong.

My new dedicated room is 13x12x8. It's small. Bare walls. Hard tile floor. Windows on the front wall.

I have some loaner speakers in there at the moment while my other speakers are on order. Right now I have Dynaudio Focus 340s. They are 7ft apart from one another, 29" from the side walls, and 19" from the front wall. I am sitting 9.5ft from the speakers with a glorious center image.

I have ran room correction via my Linn KDS/3, called "Space Optimization." It works very well.

Yet, here I am listening, and verything I put on gives me anxiety. Literally a vibratory feeling that sucks.It's maybe half of a song in and I'm feeling this way.

And I think to myself, "When I'm in my car, cranking my music, why don't I feel the same?" I feel fine in the car. Perfect, even.

So, why would I be feeling this way in my room?

I question if I naturally need to sit further back from the speakers (which I can't do: I'm out of space/room). It seems my best speaker experiences are when I'm at a friend's house and either I'm a really good distance away from the speakers, or the room is very large and/or the speakers are much further apart. All of this, of course, is contrary to what I experience in my car.

Then I think, well, let me try some near field listening with my speakers, and I end up with the same anxious feeling. 

There's really only one more thing I can try, and that is to move all of my gear into the parlor, which is a much bigger room. I couldn't leave my stuff there, because the wife wouldn't want it, but at least I could experiment to see if a greater distance from the speakers will be better. However, that doesn't answer my question of why I feel fine in my auto with the music blaring in such a confined space.

Could it be that a sealed up listening space, full of soft stuff, is optimal?

Here is a diagram of my room (if it matters).

http://imgur.com/PC8LyVX


Thanks for nay thoughts. It's driving me batty.
evolvist
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hifiman5
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rar1 and bdp24 both make valid points and suggestions.  My thoughts:

1.  Curtains/drapes over windows.

2.  An area rug between you and the speakers.

3.  Absorbent panels on the wall behind the listening seat so the music, as you hear it, is not bouncing off that wall to your ears for a second listen.  That can be a very unsettling experience.
4.  When possible, put Roomtune-style treatments into the corners of the room and quite importantly in the wall ceiling corners.

From your description, it sounds like the music, as the untreated room is now, is like listening in a bathroom with sound bouncing all over the place off of all hard surfaces.  Most audiophiles will tell you that getting the room right is as important as your gear.  A great kit in a bad room yields bad sound.  Don't be afraid to experiment!  I went to Walmart and bought a foam mattress topper, cut it into appropriate sizes and tacked it up on the wall in various positions, listening to the effect on the music. Once you figure it out, you can move to a more permanent approach to slap echo and other room issues.  First thing to do, treat the wall behind you with absorbent material.

Best of luck and keep an open mind!


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roxy54
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You need a rug and a good book or magazine.
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yogiboy
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That room is too small for the speakers you are using. What are the new speakers you plan on using? Keep away from rear ported type speakers. You would be better off using a LS3/5A (sealed 2 way) type of speaker for a small room like you have!
evolvist OP
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Hmmm...thank for the thoughts.

So, even with room correction running in software, it's still could not be defeating real, physical room problems?

You're right. The room is very hard and bare.

My body associates music with relaxation, no matter the style or genre; it's been conditioned over the years to let everything else melt away and escape via sound.

So, it could be a form of shock?

Perhaps I put too much stock in the room correction. One would think that being 9.5ft away from the speakers would be great, especially having a nice even image in the room, despite the speakers, themselves, being less than optimal.

I'll see if I can get some blankets and such up on the walls today and see how that does.

Thanks, again! Any other thoughts are always welcome.
evolvist OP
167 posts
 
@yogiboy  - But, if one is expecting to get full range speaker quality, with a small room like that, just forget the concept that you'll ever reach the highest of highs and the lowest of lows?

These aren't very big speakers. In fact, once could argue that they are a bit bass shy.

I could be wrong, but with acoustic room treatment and/or correction, with 9.5ft away (which wouldn't be considered near field), and 7ft apart, from speaker to speaker, by all measures isn't that still considered optimal?

Now, we're talking about what, some small floorstanders, and maybe a sub to fill out the rest? 
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