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Lyra Dorian Set Up Issues

I am looking for help and opinions regarding Lyra Cartridges. My system consists of Music Hall mmf.9.1 turntable, ARC PH8 Phono Pre, Arc LS27 Pre, Musical Fidelity M6prx amp, B&W 803S, more.

I was running a Paradox Pulse (like Zu) modified Denon DL103R that I really like but I wanted to get a little more detail. I am thinking of buying a Lyra Delos but I had a chance to get a nice deal on a Lyra Dorian to keep or use as a stopgap. My DL103r is easy to set up using Mofi Geodisc but the Lyra is tricky. Questions:

Best Tracking force for Dorian?

Anti Skating or not?

Loading ohms?

Other tips?

I have the Dorian mounted and tracking a 1.91 g but is doesn't seem to track well. when I drop into the lead groove it jumps into track 1. VTF has a great deal of effect on sound but I cant seem to get it right where the midrange congestion seems to open up.

My DL103R seems more dynamic and alive with 98% of the detail. The Lyra Dorian just had a new cantilever with micro line stylus (Namiki did the work) installed and has about 10 hours. More Questions:

How long does break in take for a rebuilt cartridge?

Is break in part of my issue?

I need to decide if I should keep the Lyra Dorian and work on set up and break in. Keep the Denon Pulse Paradox DL103r and leave well enough alone or sell both and by a Lyra Delos or something else.

Any help from the community would be greatly appreciated.










pilrem
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yogiboy
5,454 posts
 
stringreen,
a/s works with different arm and cartridge combinations. Why would you make a blanket statement like that? It works fine for me. The OP should give it a try!
http://www.sound-smith.com/faq/how-do-i-adjust-anti-skating-my-cartridge
tooblue
1,882 posts
 
Agree with yogiboy , I use a/s with my classic 10 arm and not with my 3D arm.

bradf's avatar
bradf
324 posts
 
Specs for Dorian
http://www.lyraconnoisseur.com/Products/Products_Analog/Dorian/dorian2.html

Specs for Delos
http://www.lyraconnoisseur.com/Products/Products_Analog/Delos/delos3.html
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bradf
324 posts
 
https://www.gcaudio.com/tips-tricks/tonearm-cartridge-compatability/

https://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/ttsetup.html
pilrem OP
40 posts
 
Thanks for great responses! The Lyra Dorian is very sensitive to VTF, VTA and loading. I think that I finally have it set up nicely and now is the time for break in... Probably at 15hr since new cantilever.

At this point the Dorian sounds detailed and refined but it slightly lacks the micro and macro dynamics of the Denon. Dorian stages deeper and images more precisely, but it does not have the dynamic impact of the Denon. My hope is that the gap will close through break in.

When considering my future upgrade to the Lyra Delos, my hope is that the Delos retains the best attributes of the Dorian with just a touch more warmth and dynamics.

BTW, there is a Dynavector Dv 20x2 h for sale on Audiogon, interesting?
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