Velodyne DD's flying out of owners' houses

Thanks for the thoughts, guys. No troll intended at all. I've done over 100 hours of research in the last couple months trying to find the "best" sub for my needs. I currently own a bottom-of-the-line Velodyne CT-120 (purchased originally for HT) and want to upgrade to something commensurate with my two-channel system (http://cgim.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/vs_user.pl?vdone&1107477492&viewmine&publ).

The DD-10 or DD-12 looks like a solid contender based on the reviews, but as I mentioned, I get concerned when I see alot of a product on the market.

Gunbei, great perspective as usual. I love McCormack's modified stuff and believe it to be great bang for the buck, but there's always alot of the stock gear for sale here. I had not thought of that.

I do have a positive story with Velodyne service. Several years ago an RCA pin broke off and was stuck in one of the RCA input jacks. I took the sub back to circus city where I bought it. They shipped it to Velodyne and I had the unit back in a couple weeks.

Thanks for the thoughts on this, guys.

I think there's 2 factors:

1. Velodyne is apparently selling these by the bucketload, so there's bound to be a few showing up.

2. Subs are very difficult to integrate well in a 2 channel setup. With good full range speakers, an improperly placed and/or crossed over sub will do way more harm than good. The DD series MAY prevent sonic disaster with the integral room correction eq, but the directions have to be followed to a T. And then, of course, a really well-integrated sub is noticeable, but subtle, except in certain passages. So there's a lot of potential for disappointment, given the amount of $$$ people are spending on these things. I suspect that some people blame their particular sub and decide to try a different brand.

Velodynes IMHO are as good as subs get, with less than 1% distortion - which is phenomenal. REL is also possibility.

Keep in mind, when choosing an expensive, high-powered active sub with proprietary drivers and circuits, that service may be necessary someday - and you'll want the company to be around then.

And Velodyne's customer service is superb. I have called in and been connected directly to a chief engineer without begging. And I know of a couple of people who have sent old busted ULD's in for repair and had complete upgrades installed at no extra cost.

So I wouldn't worry too much about the classified listings.

Well I have owned a DD-10 for a couple of years and
have had no problems with it all. I let a friend of
mine borrow my sub for a few weeks. He was so impressed
with it that he went out and purchased a DD-10 for himself.

About 2 weeks later he had a problem. The sub would shut
itself down. He contacted Velodyne and they suggested
he send the amp portion of the sub in. He did and got
the new amp back in a week. A few hours after installation it failed again!! This time he sent the whole sub back to Velodyne. After about a week he got it back and, you guessed it, it failed again.

He emailed Velodyne and they got back to him a few days later. Not only did they give him a new sub, they upgraded him to a DD-12. Needless to say the DD-12 has been performing without a hitch. He is now very happy with the DD-12 and I'm a bit jealous.

Given this kind of service I would buy another Velodyne
product without any worries.

Cheers
cmach

Velodyne service is outstanding. So are their subs. No worries. ( not a dealer....just a happy customer)

But seriously folks, I have had an eye on the DD-12 since the beginning of the year.