Best Complete HomeTheater USED for $5000.00

you dont need a $1500 sub, nor do you need to spend 1000$ for rears, but I wont comment on projector, only to say I hope you have a very dark room for it.
I would think you could get both a sub and rears for less then $1500 total used, but I will leave it the know it alls to comment on that

>>But if I sell I sell my jadis wont my 2 channel bliss go down the drain?<<

I would think so.

>>If I keep the Jadis can I just get away with a pre / AV?<<

This is why I would suggest keeping the Jadis and seeing if you can live with a receiver as your hub. Personally, I couldn't. If you sell your Jadis, you may want to go with separates -- a surround processor and outboard amplification. This will depend on how deeply you want to get into home theater and what trade-offs you're willing to make.

>>Do I need to spend used 1500 on a sub woofer- if only used for movie<<

If it is only for movies, you can get by with a much less expensive sub-woofer, but if you go with an inexpensive home theater sub-woofer, you will not be happy with it for music -- your choice.

>>What kind of quality can I expect form a used $3000 projector?<<

The projector I suggested you put on your list is supposed to be excellent quality and with appropriate adjustments for your room size. But, you will have to research these.

>>Is $1000 really necessary for used rear speakers?<<

No, you can get used rear speakers for much less. I was estimating the price of the ALPHAS, since those are in the same family as the Caravelles.

>>Sorry if any of these are stupid questions<<

There are no stupid questions. I just wanted to get the ball rolling and I would rather start with a budget that is high and come in under it -- I always feel better that way. That's why I wrote that you can probably come in under that budget, but now you have a starting point.

Like I said, you like your 2 channel system, why change it??
just add a digital AV pre/pro (looped into an auxilary input on your existing 2 channel preamp(switch to that input for movies), and a subwoofer. You will keep the integrity of your 2 channel you like intact, and have added the HT part...simple really.
If you start over, you'll have a more difficult time "getting it all right" starting over. Plus, more complication, diffuculty in placing all the other speakers for good sound(even,matched sound, and balanced). You'll, in the end, just have "more speakers", not necessarily better.
Of course, I'm not sure what your speakers can do for movies. Some audiphile speakers are "too laid back" and uninvolving for movies. They don't jump out and grab you, but rather make you lean into the movie, and are distant sounding, not upfront and pressent!...this is critical for an effective movie mix...I don't care what any audiophile say's...it's booooooooring. (been there, done those...)
Still, I'D CHANGE ONLY ONE VARIABLE AT A TIME!!! This is the right way to do things. You go changing too many things at once and you don't know what you've got going!!!...or where the problems are.
good luck

Hi
In a 4-channel system - without a center speaker - can the whole familly enjoy the center audio,or is the "sweet spot" limited to 1 or 2 persons?
Thanks

Saffy,

Buy a third Caravelle as the center, get some used totem model ones for the rear they are a reasonable timbre match, sell the Jadis and the Theta David get a solid Pioneer DVD player which will make a nice digital transport and give you a great picture this you can upgrade later., buy a used Meridian Prepro and get an Audio Refinement Multi-5...Finished Build a Parts Express 12" subwoofer for movies and music.

Maybe next year get your tubes back, but for now the family's happy and you're not sufferring. Who know's you may like it better than the Jadis/Theta. I've seen a 568 take out more ambitious equipment than that. Trifield is a new experience so hang out on the Meridian Forum and learn about a new way to listen to 2 channel music. Everyone there was converted so it can happen to you.

Do I have to defend?

If two caravelles are great why not three? The Meridian 568 smokes the theta as a DAC but you'll likely miss the Jadis but for the money the audio refinement is a huge overachiever and I believe will sound great with the Caravelles. I've heard AR Multi-5 run a pair of JM LAbs Alto Utopias and the matching center, and it was good and did not sound grainy or edgy. So I think you'll find it acceptable.

I thought I posted this system originally I'm sorry for the oversite. Like I said in my earlier posts, when you talk to people who cannot get their multi-channel to be better than their two channel. (RSBeck, I own ATC's you own Monitor Audio, who's midfi now?) You end up with a convoluted system and not so good results and clearly more questions. Because there is no focus or commitement to making the most of this investment. Instead its about patching things. Do you want a patched system or an integrated one?

A Meridian/Audio Refinement systems will eclipse the Jadis/Denon system. That Denon isn't that good sounding and the Jadis can't change that.

Gotta let go of the ""HIFI Cred peices" for now and bulk up on the speakers and get a great DAC/prepro. No compromises. Now that you have a multi-channel system make the best of it! Don't sit in denial and and wax nostalgically for the past... make the best of your new system.