ZYX Universe and Lyra Titan

Gmorris what difference would it make if a person were only involved in "so called Highend for a couple of years?"

The amount of time a person has spent in a given activity is less meaningful than their experience level. Some people will learn absotlutely nothing in five years while another person can learn volumes in a much shorter period of time.

I don't know Doug, as I have never met him, but his level of experience seems to be significant. I would rather learn from someone who is active and excited about a given hobby or past time rather then some self-proclaimed expert or audio engineer.

From what I have read, Doug Deacon has been involved in these tests and comparisons, who could more correctly speak to the results than a participant? Now he if wrote for a national publication we could all ridicule and mock him, but I think he's just another hobbiest.

Kha, these comments about the Schroeder/Teres sound at RMAF are foolish at best, or possibly borne of the desire to trash a great product purely out of malice.

The electronics in the room where mid-fi at best, and the speakers were unimpressive. Based on these facts, how can you determine that the arm and cartridge were to blame.

I will concur that the sound in that room was not real good, but to place the blame on the best two componants makes the reader question the wisdom of the writer, or perhaps their absolute intelligence!?!

76doublebass, don't be too quick to write off the Zyx based on what you heard in Denver. That room was underwhelming. The turntable alone cost more nearly three times what the Parasound amps cost. Inspite of what some reviewers have said, the Parasounds are not even close to the best gear available. The speakers too were definately not up to the task. I felt sorry for Chris Brady when I saw the room in which he was showing his products.

I was disappointed by the sound in that room, but I am still extremely interested in the Teres table, Shroeder arm, and Zyx Universe. They were by far the only good products in the room.

Cello's question was valid when he asked how you were able to assign responsibility for the poor sound to the cartridge. With all those products in the sound chain it seems disingeuous to blame the UNIverse.

I heard the Airy 3 in another room and was very pleased with the sound. I don't know when that took place in relation to Lugnut's session, but we weren't there at the same time.

Raul, there was no apology for misquoting Herr Schroeder, is that still forth coming?

It would be nice to have some arm/cartridge experiences shared from someone who knows what they are talking about as opposed to...

Cello is a music lover, not a dealer. He is employed in a completely unrelated field! His level of experience with the product that he is defending, though is significant!

Raul, again you make third party claims that are just plain outside the realm of reason. The comments doublebass made about the room at RMAF are without basis. The amp and speakers were mid-fi at best yet he maintains that it was the cartridge that caused the sonic issues in that room. How can a comment like that have any validity?

I can't speak with absolute certainty, but I believe that both Vetterone and Cello could buy any cartridge they wanted. They both chose the UNIverse. Do you really believe that they never heard another good cartridge??? Or is it that they simply cannot hear as well as you??? Vetterone has described another cartridge he currently uses, are his comments still invalid because he does not concur with you?

I don't knowif it is a language barrier, or a logic barrier, but there is a disconnect somewhere in this discussion!

Raul stop asking like a little bully on the playground. I will answer anything I want to, regardless of whether or not I know anything about the topic at hand.

People are themselves, not itself, and manager only has one "n" "and answer what I ask you," is not a complete sentence.

FWIW I have been retained by vetterone to represent him and my lawyers are in contact with Cello to see if he will also hire me to represent him. More news as the situation developes.

For now I have to get back to the laundry...

Raul, I must make a confession. I have spoken extensively with both Cello and Vetterone, on the phone and in person. Both of them are considerably more intelligent than I, so neither of them need me to manage their arguements, but I still do laundry better than them.

Regards, and enjoy the music...

Sorry Cello my notes said starch the boxers and no starch in the shirts... my bad.

gmorris please forgive my error. I meant to write Teres/Schroeder/Zyx combination. The purpose of these comments is clear, and has been stated plainly a number of times already. It is simply impossible to determine that the Zyx cartridge is the ONE item in the entire chain that caused the poor quality sound in that room. There were many products of questionable quality, the Zyx was not one of them, but even if it was how would you isolate it?

How much time did you spend in that room listening to other cartridges on the Teres table with the Schroeder arm, that you were able to determine the Zyx was to blame???

Gmorris you are right again! I am a shill for Schroeder arms. I sell them out of my trunk, or the saddlebags of my bike!!!

Actually I had never seen or heard a Schroeder arm before attending the RMAF, and knew nothing about the arms or Herr Schroeder.

To the best of my knowledge (do I sound like Clinton???) I have never spoken a negetive word about the Graham 2.2, or another other Graham arm. My comments were based on what I heard, and the salacious attack on the componants in the room under discussion.

My statements are based on the obvious facts in evidence in the room, that were available to anyone with two ears and an unbiased opinion.

I have no motivation to speak good or ill of Mr Schroeder, Mehran, or Chris Brady. To which one of them am I trying to ingraciate myself?

I own a Zyx cartridge, not the UniVerse since I cannot afford it, I just bought a Sota Cosmos, and a TriPlanar arm. I have no intention of buying a Schroeder arm, or anything else shown in that room.

My intention with my comments was to reveal your unsubstantiated bias against a product about which you know nothing! Am I being clear enough about my intention?!?