ZYX Universe and Lyra Titan


I've been reading a lot about the Universe lately but have not read any comparisons with the Titan. Anyone heard them in similiar set-ups? Since I own a Helicon, I receive about a $1,400 credit trading it in for a Titan. Is the Universe $1,300 better at $4,700? I recognize the subjectivity of the question but does anyone have any strong opinions? Thanks.
richardmr

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I listened to the Lyra Titan at the Auddiofest with the Brickman Table and Arm combination,and the ZYX Universe with the Teres Model 360 Table and I beleive the Schroder
Arm.
Actually both analog rigs sounded entirely different.
The Teres rig with the ZYX Univerese was a huge dissapointment.Here I was reading all of the posts on this untouchable cartridge for almost a full year and never actually hearing it for myself with my own ears.
I finally had the opportunity at the show and listened for a long time on the last day when very few people were around.
My background in the past has been a semi pro bass trombonist with The Skagit Symphony for the past 15 years.
My reference is live unamplified music.
Here are my notes from the show.
The ZYX Universe had no deep low bass information at all.
The cartridge is very colored sonically.The midband was quick,But tonally thin.The cartridge exhibited no layered depth of field,highs sounded closed in,dirty,no ambience retrevial around instruments pickup patterns.The top end also sounded closed in and bright.
The Lyra Titan had a natural wonderful extended top end.A huge holographic sound stage that extended very wide and deep.Ambient retrival was in a class by itelf.Midbass reproduction was natural,But still lacked proper fullness.
Deep bass was much better then the ZYX Univerese ,But still fell way short of my live reference standards.
Actually deep bass,midbass,and midrange reproduction I feel IMO or better reproduced on my Grado Reference The Reference Phono Cartridge then the other 2 above.This is using live music as the reference.
I missed all the action from the posts.My connection is down and I'll reestablish in about 2 weeks.Here I am at the public library reading the posts after several days not seeing the flame wars going on.
Yes I must clarify that possibly the system as a whole may have contributed somewhat to what I was hearing,But from my experiences with other systems I have heard in the past.,I still am sticking to my guns with what notes and impressions I came out of from the show.
I will make sure I go next year and will register with my user name and make my presense be known.I will also make sure I bring live recordings I've done of our symphony as well to hear what is really going on.I did have him put on an LP I am intimately familiar with Linda Ronstadt Whats New,and was extremely dissapointed with what I did not hear ,as opposed to what I did hear.Just no ambience retrevial at all.The sound was so shut down and closed in.
But I'm willing to give it another try next year.
I look forward too seeing all your smiling faces next year,
Best regards and enjoy the music.
I have a live concert to play Oct.22nd in Mt.Vernon WA.
featuring An American In Paris.
Log into Skagit Symphony and maybe a few of you will fly out and listen to the live concert.It will save you money on buying a new ZYX instead.
Bye for now
Don