Your thoughts on my quest for new speakers


I know this has been asked many times on this forum, but I would really like some input on my quest for new speakers.  I am currently running a Hegel 160 with Linn Majik 140 floor standing speakers and a Rythmik sub to fill out the bottom end.  I use the Hegel's built-in Airplay to stream Tidal (Hi-Fi only) to the Hegel.  I tried the Bluesound Node recently and found it actually decreased the sound quality, so I removed it from the system.  It seems the consensus is that Tidal Hi-Fi Plus is not worth the extra $10/month.  I listen to all types of music - with a focus on well produced recordings.

My listening room is a 30' x 13' rectangle with 9' ceilings and pretty good acoustics (I think).  The speakers are on a 13' wall.

Overall I am happy with my system and get a lot of pleasure out of listening to it.  But like many of us, I get the itch every now and then and wonder if I could improve the sound in some way. I think the Hegel is a solid contributor to good sound, so I plan to keep that and replace the speakers (although the Hegel 390 certainly is tempting).

Regarding price, I am willing to pay for good sound, but I subscribe to the theory of diminishing marginal improvement, i.e. $20k speakers are not twice as good as $10k speakers.  My sense is they are maybe 10% better (if that).  But let's not make this discussion about that.  My sense is $10k should get me speakers that are a solid upgrade from the Linns, but that is just a guess.

I am fortunate to leave near John Rutan's shop (Audio Connection) in NJ and spent a few hours with him last week.  He (as many of you know) is high on Vandersteens.  We listened to the Quattros for a while and they are great, but probably more than I want to spend and they would require I replace the Hegel as well.  We also listened to the Magnepan 3.7s and I was very intrigued with them - they really envelope you in the sound.  I am going back to listen to the Vandersteen Treos next week.

I listened to the 8 series B&Ws yesterday and really liked the 805s and 804s (I like the 801-803 as well, but too expensive).   They are also aesthetically pleasing, but that is not as important as the sound (of course).  I also listened to the Majico A3s, but I didn't find the $ worth it for the sound.

I also will listen to QLN, Boenicke, Focal and Harbeth at Park Avenue Audio next week.  The Boenickes really intrigue me.  The Buchardt S400 MKIIs also interest me, but wonder whether they are enough for my large room (even with the sub)?  I like that I can listen to them in my home for a period to be sure I like them.  They would be a nice low cost option.

So I would love to hear your thoughts on a good choice for me.  As I said, I think $10k is enough, but if there are some $15k speakers that would be a quantum leap forward, I would consider them.  I am open to used as well.

Thanks for taking the time to offer your thoughts.

 

 

 

jcs01

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Thanks for the feedback.  Regarding the Bluesound, I tried every option for the output - optical and coaxial to the Hegel to use the Hegel DAC and RCA to use the Bluesound DAC.  All of them sounded worse than Airplay.  I know it does not make technical sense, but that is what my ears told me.  It almost sounded like someone put a piece of cardboard over the mid-range.  It was very muted.  I thought it was some Bluesound setting, but I tried everything.  For $600 if my ears don't notice an improvement then I don't want it - regardless of the technical limitations of Airplay.

Regarding the room treatments, I don't think that would pass the wife test. She tolerates the loud music and the $ spent, but I don't think she would go for corner treatments.

Thank you everyone for your amazing array of ideas.  This thread has really opened me up to many new upgrade ideas and brands (that I had never heard of).  It fascinates me that there are so many different ideas and approaches - and what I love about this community. 

I am really intrigued by the Tekton speakers as I had never heard of them before.  As someone suggested, I called Eric (the owner) on Saturday and he picked up first ring - twice.  He was generous with his time as we walked through some of the speaker options he offers.  Although I don't like the aesthetics of the Tektons I get that is what you are not paying for and sound quality is no.1 for me (maybe not for my wife).  I think my next step is to try to listen to a pair. As I live in the NYC area, I am hoping someone will offer me that opportunity?  Perhaps I should start a separate post with that request.

Well my quest is over! After several weeks of auditioning different speakers, I have made my decision - and I am very happy with it. I listened to speakers from Vandersteen, Harbeth, Totem, Fleetwood, Boenicke, Magico, Amphion, Klipsch, Nola, QLN and Magnepan. I listened to models within my price target and some way above it. Many sounded good, but just did not sound like an upgrade from my Linn Majik 140s (even the very expensive ones). Then I heard a pair of Gershman Grand Studios and it was love at first note (or maybe third). I could not believe how perfect they sound (to me). Very clear and transparent, with absolutely no harshness or edge to them. Great low end with fantastic accuracy. I think I could listen to them for hours with no fatigue at all. When listening to "Summer Time" from the "Ella and Louis" album I was completely engaged with Ella’s voice and then when Louis Armstrong’s trumpet came in I was just stunned at how realistic and present it sounded. I spent hours in the store just enjoying all my favorite tracks.

Thinking it might be the amp or room acoustics that were responsible I asked the salesman to move them to a different room and amp just to be sure. Thankfully he was able to haul the 80lbs speakers upstairs to a different room. Fortunately they sounded equally fantastic.

Despite my endless research on-line, I had never heard of Gershman Audio, so I guess it was a benefit that I had no pre-conceived ideas about their sound. The salesman offered a new set from the manufacturer or the ones I was listening to. I told him I want the ones in front of me - did not want to take any chances.

So thanks to everyone for their input. I am convinced these are the right speakers for me.

UPDATE:  I just noticed the post before this one recommended the Gershman Grand Avante.  I had not seen that post until after writing this post - certainly a coincidence.

Ihcho, I give you full credit for the choice 😉.  Let this be the first day of your role as an audiophile influencer.