Yamaha vs Marantz vs Denon


I'm about to replace a stereo amp (NAD c320) with a surround receiver. The top of my list is the Denon avr2309 (around AU$1300-$1500), but I'm after opinions on which of these three brands are considered the most "musical"; that is, the receiver most likely to do a good job of two-channel music.
Most of the receivers in this price range do everything else I want (7.1ch, auto setup, all the new HD codecs, several HDMI in/outs etc), but the deciding factor for me will be the brand that handles stereo music well.

Now I know I should be doing my own listening tests, but it's very hard where I am to find stores carrying all the models I want to compare, let alone finding the time; I value your opinions!!
carl109

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I've sold all those brands for about a decade and a half, and I have to completely disagree with Doggg. The Denon is anything but analytical, while at different price points, Marantz's sound has been somewhat of a mixed bag. If anything, the Yamaha's have been somewhat more analytical, by themselves. Older Marantz was thinner sounding at the lower/mid price points, but smoother near the top of their line.
The Yamaha's sound at anything bellow the Reference pieces have traditionally been a bit cool sounding, slightly recessed in the mid-range, a bit thinner in the bass, extended on top sounding. They did much much better usually being driven with better amplification (so did every other receiver, but the Yamie's really sounded better with outboard amps). The Flagships were better balanced.
However, I would want to know more about your system (speakers?), how you set it up, associated gear, room, acoustics, etc, before I recommend anything - because it depends.
However, without knowing your variables, the Denon will have a more warm full-bodied bottom end, good mid-range, overall musicality, and descent enough detail and top to be the most musically satisfying, as a stand-alone receiver, IMO. Basically, I think it will most approximate the NAD at that mid-level price point you're looking at, yes. I also think the Denon's will have bette dynamics than the Marantz from my experiences. I owned a couple Marantz pieces myself, a Denon or two, and some Yamies over the past 2 decades. Again, also sold/installed them professionally also.
Hope this helps
I'd be looking at the Harmon Kardon AVR-354 and/or the best Denon you can afford for your speakers. The HK's have always delivered excellent current for a receiver, and are the most refined at that price point.
Still, I'd be using some receiver like this, and then slidding some slim-built 2 channel amp on top for added "umph" for the L/R...freeing up more current to drive the center and rears. But hey, that's just me...I like good sound and know what a separates amp can do that a receivers amplification can't.
Just know that the receiver will give you 60% of the capable performance, and a better amp will give you another 30%+ performance boost. And that's no stretch
Good luck