Would self quarantine be a challenge for an Audiophile? Home detention even a punishment?


With all the talk about people having to self quarantine, I started to think about what that would mean for an audiophile, and Would it even be much of a challenge?
Normal human being - “I had to self quarantine for 14 days and I’m ready to strangle somebody.”
Audiophile version - “I cleaned so many damn records I had been meaning to.... adjusted my VTA and azimuth and my system sounds better then ever, and after listening to the entire Miles Davis and Coltrane’s recorded output, I realized I could have left the house 2 days ago.”

And would some white collar criminal on home detention even be considered being punished? I’d be so content stuck at home with great audio system, home theater projection, laser light and planetarium show, pinball machine, infrared sauna, massage chair, I may decide to commit some “victimless” financial crime just to play with the toys I don’t always have time for.
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Being retired, I'm already living that scenario. Add in that I just had the first of two cataract surgeries and I'm going a bit stir crazy. Having the stereo at the ready, all the time, does strange things to you.

Going on 6 years retired, I find myself not listening anywhere near as much as when I only had the weekends to really indulge myself. Too much of a good thing? Who knows. But I do find myself really enjoying myself when I decide to put on a disc. 

One has to stay hungry.

On the upside, I've conditioned myself not to touch my face so often. Every one of us do it 3-5 times a minute. There's no way in hell I'm going to mess up this surgery so not touching my eye, which includes my face, was a nice discipline to work on. It will come in handy (pardon the pun) if and when 'ol Covid-19 comes a knocking. 

All the best,
Nonoise
Hey, thanks everyone, for the responses. 
sdcyn, I too, opted for the premium lenses as I'd have spent it on some other audio gear. I've been wearing glasses since 5 and figured, why go to the bother of surgery and get a standard lens and still need glasses?

Since my glasses cost me about $700/year, it'll pay itself off in short enough order. Like the Breck Shampoo commercials used to say, "I'm worth it."

mijostyn, thanks. I forgot what the appropriate term was. Funny thing is, my vision was quite good as my cataracts are forming along the edge and working their way inward, unlike the usual way. It's because of the lack of space I have that anything that would increase the pressure would have immediate and harmful effects.

Now if I can only do something for the rest of me.

All the best,
Nonoise
@tablejockey , After reading about your ordeal, I'm just glad you can still see. That was one horror show you went through.

I'm progressing fine as I could see the doctor as she lifted the sheet off my face. It was like looking through an off yellow lens. Minutes later, no tint at all. It's getting clearer and clearer everyday, save for the occasional morning blurriness. It all clears up after I'm awake and it's only been since last Thursday. My neighbor had the same operation by the same doctor a month ago and experienced the same things. She sees perfectly now. On the follow up I had the day after surgery, the nurse told me I had better vision than he did.

My only horror story is that my ride fell through at the last minute and I had to use Lyft to get home. With no one to accompany me, all I had was a local in the eye and no sedation.

It was kinda trippy to just lay there while the doctor rummaged around in my eye. One of the aides asked, "he's not under?" about half way through the procedure as I was talking to the doctor while she worked.

Life has lots of things in store for you when you age. 👍

All the best,
Nonoise
 

@tablejockey ,
Actually, my next procedure will be more involved. It will take two surgeons instead of one. The thing is, my eyes are smaller than normal and my remaining eye will have to have some of the "jelly" removed before the lens can be inserted. That way, they'll have room to work in the lens. 

You see, I have virtually no angle between my cornea and the lens. They kinda butt up against each other. I first had to have them laser some vent holes prior to cataract surgery to see if it would relieve some pressure, allowing the eye to relax and create that angle. It didn't.

All the best,
Nonoise
tablejockey, 
Thanks for the heads up. Now I have something to "look" forward to.
I guess that bubble level can help keep me upright as I go up and down the stairs. 😄

All the best,
Nonoise
Yes, that total confirmed was only around 93,000 this afternoon.
If not, and it's true, we're doomed!

All the best,
Nonoise
ianrodger, thanks for the well wishes.
I'm actually looking forward to the other surgery, just to get it all done with. I'm going throughs stages of really good to blurry vision that eventually clears but it's only been a week now and it's to be expected.

I'm actually driving now just using my one good eye and it's easier than I thought. No freeways yet as I'm taking baby steps.

All the best,
Nonoise
One lawyer in New York infected his wife, two children, and a friend who drove him to a doctor. Another friend got it from him and infected his wife and their three children, all in 48 hours. It led to the shuttering of synagogues and schools in the area (Westchester County).

Time to buy stock in GrubHub.

All the best,
Nonoise
Yup. Rate of 3.5 infected vs. 1.3 with regular flu. 
Why.... they're almost the same so what's all the bother?
brayeagle,
I can relate to the balance issue. I’ve fallen once already and really scrapped my knee and almost fell a couple days later.

I just turned too quickly and lost my footing, something I do all the time but unaware that even though I’m not looking down, both eyes are needed to maintain balance.

What I find amazing is just how fast one goes down at my age. My hands barely react in time.

I would say that part is fun too, but I’d be lying. And like avsjerry says, "do not go gently..."

All the best,
Nonoise
Even Boris Johnson is copying the model the Danes came up with and will pay 80% of peoples salaries for the duration of the crisis and forbid any company accepting funds from laying off people. Even a conservative like him realizes it.

Our conservatives seem to worship mammon in the biblical sense. I got this off of twitter:
This is as pure Moloch as ever this self-afflicted country has achieved. For the sake of mammon our leaders are speaking of sacrificing -- as if on an altar -- hundreds of thousands. Look, I'm just a Jew, but I know the spirit of the antichrist when I see it.
The bill the GOP wanted allows Trump (the guy who oversaw Trump University and Trump Charities) final say as to who gets the money without explanation or oversight. He could give himself money if he sees fit, and believe me, he does.

This GOP snuck in a restriction that no extra money goes to Medicaid, which would go to local hospitals, because they never liked the concept of it to begin with. Oh, and very weak worker protections.

Gov. Cuomo is bewildered that the Federal Production Act sits by idly as hospitals fight each other over equipment that is not being made anywhere near as fast as it could be. Government stockpiles are still not going out as planned.

  A joke floating around on the Internet says, "How do you know if you have coronavirus? Just cough in a rich person's face and wait for the results to come back." The joke highlights the fact that rich and powerful people all across the country are easily and quickly getting themselves tested.

All the best,
Nonoise



I wonder if sales of tonic water will see some uptick
.If there’s alcohol in it, yes.

Oh wait, I’ve got something like that in my fridge. Cherry flavored Truly Hard Seltzer.. Or you can go with White Claw Hard Seltzer.

On a more serious note, Iceland has tested the equivalent of our testing 9 Million of their citizens (around 10,000) and have been doing it since their first infection, back in February.

They’re going one step further and sequencing every virus tested along with it’s source (China, Europe, America, etc) to determine future mutations, which will occur. At least someone is taking the long view.

All the best,
Nonoise
It's the flap, flap, flap that keeps me above the fray, my mind clear, and focuses my attention. To decry that is to surrender to the old both sides do it meme.

All the best,
Nonoise
It's been argued these past three years that we should abandon the Goldwater Rule and allow remote analysis of Trump. He's definitely on the spectrum in more than one psychosis and it's becoming all too apparent that he's in way over his head, and we're all the worse off for it.

All the best,
Nonoise
What would you call 60 millions Americans who elected the man ?
I'd call that a number that would've made Jim Jones jealous.
65,000 of our finest who died in Vietnam would have much preferred Goldwater over the criminal warmonger's Johnson and McNamara.
Do you mean the guy who supported the John Birch Society, wanted Social Security to be voluntary and mused about using nuclear weapons on Viet Nam? That Goldwater?

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."---Barry Goldwater

And people talk about present day candidates as if they are a danger.

All the best,
Nonoise
It seems it takes a crisis to bring out the same old, tired BS that you can find in lots of threads here from the past. No matter how many times they're shot down, they keep on keeping on like zombies. 

It's like they're just dying to say it and once it's said, it's true, now and forever. Since it's part of this pathetic record, they can always go back and read it with a chuckle, happy with the thought that they now "own" some people who took offense.

It's a pathology, of sorts.

All the best,
Nonoise
Yes. Keep the image of the man and neglect and mythologize his accomplishments to suit one's fancy. Image is everything as most people don't look beneath the veneer.

When asked who she'd like for her VP, living or dead, Elizabeth Warren said, without hesitation, Teddy Roosevelt. He'd definitely be labeled a RINO if not a radical, left wing liberal in today's times.

All the best,
Nonoise
There are a lot of Israelis who would beg to differ with your assessment.
As to the issue of Palestine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_%22Palestine%22

All the best,
Nonoise
^^^ God is spelled with a capital "G."
Maybe in your world buddy, but not mine.
It's bad enough with your right wing nuttery so don't even think of proselytizing.

All the best,
Nonoise


Denmark said they will pay 75% of all employees salaries to avoid job losses (13% of their GDP) over 13 weeks. They're basically freezing their economy so when it gets better, they can almost pick up where they left off. 

It's a pause in work but not their economy. Gotta love them socialists: they know how to excel at capitalism.

All the best,
Nonoise
Now Trump wants Americans to all go back to work next week. If this were a TV plot for a series, it wouldn’t make it past the studio heads.

All the best,
Nonoise
Before anyone takes Trump up on his miracle chloroquine cocktail, the study he's touting involved only 24 people over just a couple of weeks. It was not randomized nor blind.

6 in the study were eliminated but reasons were not stated. It turns out that 3 went to ICU, 2 quit because of the pain, and 1 died. 

Please don't be the next one to jump on that bandwagon.

All the best,
Nonoise
5 days ago nothing was amiss in the stores. I heard stories of panic buying but saw none for myself. Yesterday, I went to get a battery for my thermometer and just a couple of cans of soup and some rolls and found myself involuntarily laughing at the empty shelves.

What looked like lines of people shopping in the aisles were instead, waiting in line for checkout, almost to the back of the store. I just put what I’d bought back on the shelf and walked out.

There was no rhyme or reason to the what was taken and what was left behind. All the frozen food you could ask for. Anyone who can cook could make some killer meals. Being prepared is okay but people need to relax. There’s also fast food or takeout to see you through.

Hopefully it will calm down and by the middle of the week the stores will look normal. My stereo never sounded so good.

All the best,
Nonoise
flatbackround,
I feel for you sir. I have nothing to gripe about with my situation. I truly hope your vision comes around to at least, almost normal. My only setback was blurriness after 3 days of getting clearer. Turns out I had to increase the anti-inflamitory dosage and it's getting clearer.

glupson,
I thought of that too but I needed a small 392/384 button battery. Turns out there was one left at a CVS. Thanks for the heads up.

All the best,
Nonoise
Ah, the voice of reason.

While still recovering from my cataract surgery, my gym finally closed down for awhile, taking away any decision on my part to get back to my regular workout.

A short walk to a local grocer showed aisles still empty, the deli open, lots of produce and normal lines at checkout. No one seems to like naan bread but it's still bread, so it's sandwich heaven if you're so inclined.

Make sure to thank your store employees for putting up with the madness. I did and they really appreciated it. My niece and her husband both work for Gelson's and they're putting in 12-13 hour days while dealing with some of the rudest, stupidest and nastiest people. It doesn't have to be that way.

If everyone would just go back to their regular shopping habits this could all calm down. There's plenty to go around as long as it's done in a normal fashion. That's the beauty of the system, and it's weak point.

A little common sense can go a long way. 

All the best,
Nonoise




Good to see Dr, Fauci back on the podium. He pointed out how bad it can get with the many fleeing New York for "safer" places. Since their rate of infection is way higher than average (1 in 1,000) they will become vectors and seed new areas for the infection to spread. 

Unfortunately, places like Florida are urging self isolation since the state refuses to get involved down to the local level. Other states are quarantining new arrivals, as they should. 

Time for the next wave.

All the best,
Nonoise
Here is a sane explanation of why we can't test as well and fast as other countries, and what to expect in the coming weeks:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAWGgLp2maQ

This should alleviate some fears in regards to testing. 

All the best,
Nonoise
7% of New York city cops called in sick today. 100 cops and 26 civilians working for them have tested positive. This is just beginning to take off.

All the best,
Nonoise
Again, where I live, saner heads are prevailing. Sort of. I got a haircut since there might be a shelter in mandate and it was sad to see that practically all of the two barbers that were there had cancellations for most of the day.

These guys are licensed and have probably the cleanest hands around since everything is sanitized between cuts. Even the beauty salon next door had cancellations. These folk have nothing to fall back on and may lose their lease. Hopefully, these smaller merchants can get a bail out this time.

Next was a trip to the local Ralphs. Parking lot was maybe 3/4 full with a small line outside. They allowed 25 people in every ten minutes. I got in in 7 minutes and got a weeks worth of groceries, taking my time. The system can work as long as we all abide. 

As for masks, I haven't worn one in a week. I have just the standard bluish ones that strap to your ears and it keeps some things at bay. Only a few people were wearing one, but in the future, when things start to spike, I'll be wearing one again on my morning walks and when I go out.

All the best,
Nonoise
It seems Bezos is gearing up and concentrating on disinfectants, cleansers and medical needs. They expect to hire 100,000 new employees for those needs.

As for food and other sundry needs, and if you want to keep contact with others to a minimum, my sister orders stuff from Walmart who keeps the orders in lockers and brings them out to her car. 

We can be a most adaptable species.

Just now breaking: Californians ordered to shelter in place. Good thing I got that haircut as I was getting a bit shaggy.

All the best,
Nonoise
Sorry. I quit 12 years ago.
And I still feel it's effects. 👎

Even with a shelter in place mandate, you can still go out to the store for food and essentials and, to a smoker, what can be more essential then a pack of cigs?

All the best,
Nonoise
Yes, New York is the hot zone of contagion right now. They're experiencing 5X the normal attack rate of the virus and positive testing is running at 28% compared to 8% elsewhere, which indicates it's been circulating for many, many weeks. It's really out of hand. 

If only we had a leader who would act in the public interest, instead of self interest. Good night.

All the best,
Nonoise
When I read that I thought it was something from The Onion

All the best,
Nonoise


Poor old Donnie was sputtering more than usual about our economy and going back to work and doctors say one thing but I say differently and when asked about if he's due for a bailout for his hotels he went off on a tear about how he does this all for free and no one thanks him, completely avoiding the question. And no Dr. Fauci around to correct him, again.

He's not all there, is he?

All the best,
Nonoise
A little levity in the form of a message from Italy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMY0-4p9P-M

All the best,
Nonoise
OMG. I've been following this recent trend and this is really bad. The right wing is now of a mind that the sacrifice of our elderly so we can get back to making money, is doable.

Texas Lt. Governor, Dan Patrick said grandparents would be willing to die to save the economy for their grandchildren. 

Donald Trump has nine grandchildren.

Just saying.

All the best,
Nonoise
My hands have never been cleaner. 
A doctor on TV just stated that Hong Kong and Singapore are experiencing a second wave of infections. This does not bode well.

Italy's death toll jumped 475 in one day. The biggest anywhere so far.

Health providers are asking medical experts if pieces of cloth can work like masks since they've run out of supplies.

We used to be a can-do society. What the hell happened?

All the best,
Nonoise
Some country has acted already and some will act better than others.... I will not provoke acrimonious debates and name them.... Anyone who can read news of the world can do that... But who read news from the world? :)

Like said inna, it is a crisis that ask for exact working clock urgence actions...Any ideological response is criminal...

Isn’t that an ideological response, of sorts?
All of that can be attributed to politics without ascribing it to any particular one.

All the best,
Nonoise

fleschler, so to you, people like Bernie Sanders and any Jew who disagrees with you is one of those "self hating Jews?" Is that it?

By the way, it's not my site, it's a community site peopled by experts on all manner of topics that self edits/corrects whenever the need arises. The record clearly shows Palestine going as far back as any group of peoples.

All the best,
Nonoise
I never bought into the notion that god was a real estate agent.
Frank, I missed what you just vomited but I say this in all candor: you really need help. As this crisis worsens, you're really coming apart.

All the best,
Nonoise
Politics is inseparable from society. One governs and therefore shapes the other, down to epidemic responses.  

Speak of all the numbers you wish to. They would all change if dealt with in a different manner and that is attributable to the political will exacted on a populace.

Mega monopole company, no more middle class, financial engineering, health care profit business orientation, political ideological divisive abyss, and promotion of electronical illiterate stupidity for the masses and transhumanism for a few
That is not the result of "society" since politics are the driving force behind it all. They go hand in hand. Choices are made, politically, that allow such results. Change the politics, and the results themselves, change.

Residing in the ether and discussing in the abstract doesn't help.

All the best,
Nonoise
I believe most  of those states that geoff listed are run by GOP majorities that refused Medicaid expansion and here we have drs. in those states who've benefited from that privatizing life saving Rxs for themselves. 

All the best,
Nonoise
Dependency increases with the expansion of the welfare state.
The biggest expansion has been at the top due to reverse socialism.
How nice of you to point it out.

All the best,
Nonoise


Thanks mahgister,

Maybe I'll put on some Bach too....
I think what mahgister alluded to was that there's so much funny money propping up a lot of the uber rich that should a financial crisis were to hit hard, like it just did, it can bring down the whole house of cards.

That could account for why Trump never enacted the Federal Production Act. To do so would confirm the severity of the situation and put into action things that would take a long time finish, furthering the economic decline.

All the best,
Nonoise