Would an Isolation TT platform further improve my TT?


My new Luxman PD-171 A TT weighs around 55 lbs. and it sits on a heavy audio stand. The floor is carpeted w/a cement base. Prior to this TT I had a Linn w/was much more sensitive and didn't need an additional stand. I wonder if adding an isolation platform would be beneficial to my current TT. I was looking at Butcher Block Acoustics and MDF W/Lead Core and Sorbothane Feet.
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Which gets us nowhere, since it is still begging the question: How?

The obvious answer everyone comes up with is something soft. Think inner-tubes on the DIY cheap end, Seismic Shelf or whatever on the spendy end. The problem with all of those being they still need to be tuned or balanced if you prefer.

Less obvious is use something sufficiently massive and solid. Go massive enough and at some point the thing simply will not be capable of moving at any but the lowest subsonic frequencies. 

Its even possible, if you want to go to all the bother, to calculate based on dimensions and mass exactly what those frequencies will be. Or you could just build one, jump up and down enough to get it rocking, and make a pretty good estimate. Mine is way down in the low single digits.

There's another one the isolationists never seem to answer, and that is the question of: Which matters more- vibrations that are external, ie a part of the environment? Or internally generated?

The answer by the way is: Both. In many if not most, or maybe even all situations the turntable itself is the greatest source of vibration. Given the wackiness of some contributors this might be a good time to say for the record I don't mean during earthquakes. But most other times, just sitting there playing a record, even in your rickety room, the turntable itself is your main concern in terms of vibration control.

Which means, of course, that regardless of what you use or how perfectly it isolates you still have to deal with the question of the very first material the component rests on. Because whatever that is, is going to determine more than anything else the nature of the vibrations reflected right back up into the table.

That's why vibration control is not just words to say, but rules to live by. Isolation is only one aspect of vibration control. I seriously doubt it is even the most important.
A rigid frame actually transfers vibration more efficiently than a rickety frame.

Correct! Well, even a stopped clock....

But even then its not really right now, is it?

What about frequency? What about amplitude? How much and how fast?

Because, there’s this thing, and its kinda old school, really old school in fact, probably not something they teach theoretical physicists these days, but back in the day we called it Newton’s Law. They even made us memorize f=ma. Force equals mass times acceleration. Woo-hoo! I still remember!

Anyway, and I know math is hard and everything (not to mention beneath a reigning theoretical physicist) but it seems to me that from this equation if you use enough m then even a lot of f is gonna result in practically zero a.

But I dunno. Maybe codename should check the math for me?
I have always found that the more rigid the support, the tighter, more incisive and clearer the sound. Damping of the support by using wood or "absorbers" softens the sound. Marble and glass sounds etched while oak sounds warm etc. I'm old school and have to be convinced otherwise but spikes, cones and inertia allow the table to be as fixed as possible.


This^^^

Which is why I built this.
http://www.theanalogdept.com/images/spp6_pics/C_miller_web/TTstand_1.jpg

Which all I know for sure is it was a big improvement over the floor.