Woofer pumping WHY??


Hello All, I have an older REL B2 series. I love this sub. I recently received a new Project Xtension 10 with Clear Audio Maestro Ebony v2. After a couple days I noticed bad woofer pumping on several records I like to listen too. When I brought it up to Needle Doctor they told me it was my records and said it worked fine in there store. Now my REL is blown! I am so upset at myself for not taking this matter more seriously. Now I am purchasing a KAB rumble filter because I am not going through this again. Is this a cartridge mismatch?? Because on my REGA with Dynavector 10X5 It did not do this woofer pumping nearly as bad. AND I do remember putting a DENON DL103 on my RB301 and this same woofer crazy action occurred!! Immediately took it off that arm. I just spent $4100 for this Xtension10/CA Maestro and now I am scratching my head. Hmmmm.
128x128mattmiller

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When I play any vinyl it goes 4 very quick beats then nothing then 4 very quick beats and so on... it even speeds up when I play 45's
Good observations, which lead one to suspect an irregularity in the new TT's drive or bearing system.

As a cheap experiment, you might try a different drive belt.

If you don't have a spare belt, try removing the one you have and feeling for irregularities. Sanding those lightly might help. Then reinstall the belt "other side up".

Try as many of these as you easily can and see if the woofer behavior changes.

Good followup suggestion from Jperry. I would try his simple diagnostic and my suggestions before schlepping a hunk of granite, which seems unlikely to alter the behavior last described.

Do whatever you like of course.
Lew, there doesn't appear to be much interest in logic here. ;-)

Matt posted earlier that his woofer pumping:

1. occurs with his new rig but not his old one.
This earmarks the new rig as specifically involved with the problem.

2. occurs on all records.
This eliminates "the records we play" as a culprit and points toward the (new) equipment.

3. occurs in the specific, repeating pattern of 4 pumps and a pause.
This eliminates both tonearm/cartridge interactions and "the records we play" as culprits, since either one would generate pumps in an irregular pattern based on the individual record.

4. occurs faster when playing at 45rpm than at 33rpm.
This suggests a defect in the TT drive system or bearing. No other elements in the vinyl playback chain are speed dependent.

Taking #s 3 and 4 together, the most likely suspects are a defective bearing, motor or belt. Any of these could cause "bumps" in a regular, repeating pattern that is speed dependent .

I pointed this out on 7/21. Jperry, Rodman99999, you and now Atmasphere have all reached similar conclusions. We've advised Matt on diagnostics and that he should consider filing a warranty claim on the new TT.

Aside from non-sequitars like schlepping granite, his only response was that the TT is new, so why would he need to file a warranty claim? This was irrational, so...

[insert .gif of dead horse being cruelly if amusingly beaten... 4 beats and a pause, 4 beats and a pause...]