Why you want upsampling and upconversion in a server and why it sounds way better!


One of Roon's and Jrivers best advantages is the ability to digitally reprocess your data. 

With an appropriate server you can take for example a 16 bit 44k Tidal stream and reprocess that data stream to DSD or to reprocess to 24bit 192k, 384k, even up to 768k.

In our tests almost accross the board most listeners perfer DSD or high res PCM data streams.

The counter arguement is that if you start with 16 bit 44k sample you can't do any better as that  is the source.

Going through Facebook we got a post that showed the Lumiere brothers first film shot in 1894 with a steam locomotive. 

The second video showed the same Lumiere video reprocessed using AI to create a 4k video stream out of the same video footage. 

The first video is the native source the second shows the reprocessed video the differences aren't subtitle even if you reprocess the native video you are able to extract a signifigantly higher quality image. 

We have been saying this for years even if you don't start out with a true high res source through the magic of computer reprocessing you can create a pseudo high res data packet that still sound far better than ifs original form.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/someone-used-neural-networks-to-upscale-a-famous-1896-video-to-4k-quality/

Watch the video and see what you think. Sure it is always best to start with a true high resolution image but in the case of not having a true high resolution music fille the ability to use digital reprocessing can create a signal that will sound far better providing that your dac and server are up to the task.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ



 
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The video/film analogy is a stretch IMO.  However, my impression is that the general consensus is that upsampling Redbook CD's usually does result in audible improvements, and I agree.  I've been doing it for years, though in hardware rather than software. 

CD's clearly improve when upsampled through my old-but-beautiful Assemblage D2D-1 upsampler/dejitterer.  It feeds a Sonic Frontiers SFD-2 MK-III via I2S-e interface.  This system only goes to 24b/96khz, but so what?  How many of us can really hear the difference between 24/96 ans 24/192 or whatever?  [And please, nobody whine about the old kit or "digital has improved dramatically," etc etc unless you've actually heard it.  It's bold, but I'll say it - at the very high end this stuff hasn't actually been sonically improved on.  But all that is a topic for another thread.]
What sonic improvements?  Very subtle but also very real.  More space and depth in the soundstage.  Clearer placement of instruments, less "smeared."  Just a little clearer, better defined and simply more real.

Most significant to me, is that the same improvements occur when playing upsampled 16/44, "CD quality" material from Quobuz and Tidal through the BlueSound Node 2i.  In this case it's the s/pdif output of the Node 2i to the D2D-1, thereby bypassing the DAC in the Node 2i.  The D2D-1/SFD-2 sounds >>vastly<< better than the Node 2i's internal DAC. 

Interestingly, playing Tidal MDA material through the D2D-1/SFD-2 (which wouldn't be unfolded or decoded or whatever, I guess) sounds better than when using the Node 2i's internal DAC with full MDA unfolding.  Admittedly, this probably isn't a fair comparison.