Why so few balanced phono inputs?


I have been through the posts regarding whether a phono cartridge is a balanced connection or not and per Ralph Karsten etc. I agree it is balanced. It finally hit me why someone like Pass Labs doesn't offer a balanced input on a balanced unit (I wanted one until I saw they only had rca)...There are so few turntables that offer a balanced out connection. I got mine from VPI and it was easily switched and was a huge improvement... but are there other TT brands that offer a balanced connection? I was in a high end shop the other day...first time in a while... and saw none. Even SME didn't show one as an option on their site. Not trying to open the balanced vs. single-ended thing but maybe it is endemmic to the conversation. Thanks
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I feel that I should point out that the type of connector (RCA vs. XLR) does NOT determine whether or not a connection is balanced. What determines this is equal impedance to ground from the two signal carriers. Both for the source and the input. With single ended connections one signal carrier is at ground potential (zero impedance to ground). If you have an input transformer and the primary winding (input side) is left "floating" (no connection to ground) and the cartridge is not grounded you have a balanced connection, whether you use XLR or RCA jacks. This will be true even if the preamp itself is single ended. As long as it has an input transformer and the input is floating. I use RCA jacks on my fully differential, balanced phono pre for convenience (XLR plugs would not fit through the tone arm pod on my Nott. TT).
Any phono cable can be easily converted into a balanced one. Just snip off the RCA's off and solder the two cable leads onto XLR's.

Some single-ended cables are coaxial. Cut the RCA plug off the end and you will find up with a single conductor and a shield. This would make for a very poor balanced interconnect.
The thing you have to be careful about with this statement is the cable used. If a shield is involved and it is tied to pin 3 while pin 2 has the inside connection, its not going to work regardless of the impedance to ground.

Ralph, if you would note my earlier post on 5/08 I already mentioned that a coaxial cable would make for a very poor balanced line. I was trying to make the point that just because some piece of equipment has an XLR jack on its panel, that doesn't necessarily mean it's truly balanced. The definition of a balanced output or input is equal impedance from the two signal lines to ground. As an example, with some OP amp based balanced to single-ended conversion circuits the impedances do not exactly match and are off by a few ohms. Doesn't sound like much but it can seriously degrade the CMRR.