Why no “Break in” period?


If people say there’s a break in period for everything from Amps to cartridges to cables to basically everything... why is it with new power conditioners that people say they immediately notice “the floor drop away” etc.  Why no break in on that?

I’m not trying to be snarky - I’m genuinely asking.
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Humans hear and process sound in a non linear manner. Measurements can only approximate what and how we hear. They can even go farther and deeper into the weeds but by that time, out brains have already processed the sound and moved on, in real time.

One can capture the sound in real time and go back and retroactively process the values, signatures and other criteria of a sound and match it to what we hear. Again, our ears and brains have done it on the fly and are way past that, since they can differentiate and assess it with the help of millions of years of evolutionary processing prowess.

Before the advent of measurements, and our hubris, we did a hell of a job tuning instruments and playing music, as well as appreciating all the aspects of listening. 

It's second nature for a trained ear to pick out differences that others would scratch their heads at. Being able to pick out concussive phenomena meters away that would escape our attention is misleading.

Take, for example, an electron microscope. It can "see" a hell of a lot better than we can for it's intended purpose, but it's severely limited in what it can see. I wouldn't go so far as to say that since it can see better than I can, at the microscopic level, I would want to drive my car using it.

Can anyone here say that, 10 years from now we'll not have better ways to measure sound? That we will not be able to learn more? Or, are we at the height of our abilities and there's nothing left to learn?

As for an accu-timer, it can measure the value, duration and time signature of a note, but how does it differentiate between the different kinds of notes if they're played the same way?

All the best,
Nonoise


How would a High C note, played at 90db measure differently from a High B note, played at 90db, or would they look exactly the same?
Certainly, you're not saying some are taking liberties with what was said and portraying them as a position that you never ascribed to? That would be unethical. 
This is all coming down to being a great case of helicopter parenting amped up by a surfeit of hubris. 

Ya'll need to come down a few rungs on that ladder of abstraction to relatable and personal levels, like in the old days.

I'd hate to go have a meal with some of you as you'd ruin the experience. 😄

All the best,
Nonoise
For those who believe that one cannot remember a sound, tell that to someone who's pitch perfect and can tell you instantly what note is playing. 5 in 10K people have that ability. The rest of us come close.

We can remember sounds. Ask any early hominid if he remembers the sound of that big cat who ate his friend last week.

All the best,
Nonoise

Nicely stated. 👍
Pick and choose.
Be selective.
Never cede the high ground.
Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em.....

All the best,
Nonoise
Yes, what a lovely phrase! It carries the same force as the phrase, "skepticism bias". :) 

And now I return to my writing, as it is a waste of life to argue such things beyond a sentence or two. I have been known to be drawn into such things in the past, but I'm trying to reform myself.  :)
Well said, like others here, on the truth of break in. There's lots of projection going on here that points to "skepticism bias". It's become a well practiced art form and all the usual critters chime in with the same, bland accusations.

Once you've got it down to a few talking points, it doesn't matter what or how you say it, and the ditto heads will nod along in approval. Anything can be made up or added into the mix and it simply strengthens the belief. That, and the tendency to dog pile. It's actually predictable.

The only downside is that this "skepticism bias" has taken on a life of its own and pollutes many a discussion for no real reason other than to be seen as a normal form of communication, which is truly sad.

One of the valid forms of accommodation, in psychology, is a neurotic condition and can apply to certain aspects of authoritarianism. The ditto heads simply follow the strong ones even though they contradict their values, beliefs, mores and folkways. Civility and ethics can go right out the window as long as they win, as a group. Gone, is the open mind. New info need not apply. Closed for business.

That's why Doug is onto to something that I'm gonna try to practice more this year as my one and only resolution: to stop wasting so much time in these silly arguments, and stick to the stuff that matters.

All the best,
Nonoise