The current responder score is 3 to 1 in favor of drugs. I also like to smoke pot and listen to music, but I wind up playing guitar for hours instead...so I can't win. |
I doubt anybody "needs" to smoke a little non-toxic (by definition) herb for musical listening enhancement, but I am amazed in this day and age that anybody else would care one way or the other. If I get so hammered from single malt I hurl on my DAC, I'm an idiot. A legal and socially acceptable intoxicant idiot, but still...we need to exclude the Church Lady mentality from otherwise harmless discussions or the forum is rendered pointless by uninformed hysterical and anachronistic opinions. Or something. |
Herbs in excess can DESTROY an otherwise well made dish. Stop excessive herb abuse before a meal is ruined! |
Too much moderation is an excess. |
Excessive cilantro can harm others...they may never forgive you if you serve that to them. Nobody has ever used excessive parsley, so the jury is out on that one. |
The story of misinformation about E (a drug I have not used nor do I intend to) is interesting. Some idiot published a fabricated story about E rotting your brain and was utterly discredited soon after, but the myth remains. Misinformation about otherwise "lower harm" (not harmless of course) drugs does no favors for anybody, and acceptance of whatever Big Pharma's lobby promotes seems unquestioned...and that's the world we live in. I noticed a little advertisement in the corner of the front page (!) of today's NY Times for Johnny Walker Blue, which when used properly will make you slightly buzzed, but otherwise is absolutely toxic, but an accepted toxic nonetheless...E and pot don't stand a chance in a death challenge with that stuff. |
I was referring to an insane and unsubstantiated bit of bad science that has been covered elsewhere ad nauseum, and doctors have NOT found tiny holes in the brains of E users (http://www.thefix.com/content/brain-holes-and-other-meth-myths), although meth clearly leads to junk filled single wide trailers and filthy wife beater clad toothless weirdos...and there is absolutely NO substantiated non biased evidence that pot makes you "dumb"...unless you're kinda dumb to begin with, in which case it might make you more self aware and allow you to be all the dumb you can be. |
Some notes on drugs and music: The bebop era jazz world was devastated by heroin and I (and pretty much every informed fan) assume a LOT more great music would have been produced without it, with many less dead musicians. I've been a musician since the 60s and can say without hesitation that drugs NEVER helped any serious music along...maybe somebody was inspired by an acid trip or was helped to stay awake by some stimulant, but to say "weed or drugs" played (or plays) an important role in the art itself minimizes the effort it takes to make good music, and is an insult to working musicians. Alcohol and hard drug use by "bohemian" artists and writers might be a fact of life but certainly has never helped the art or writing, except in the imagination of the delusional. |
You can smoke pot and noodle all day, but few other drugs allow that...sort of speaks to the "lumping together" nonesense of the term "drugs." The image of the "creative stoned musician dude" is a lame parody to most pro musicians who have experience and chops, and can force the overuse of quotation marks. |
"So what is the loss you claim when attempting to benefit from an otherwise useless experience?"...mostly vitamin B. |
I don't mind memory loss as it simply allows me to experience things multiple times as if they were new. |
Reefer Madness. There really are alternative universes it seems. |
To make your herbal recreation choices based on the fact that some people shouldn't use it since they clearly have a propensity for abuse of it, shouldn't matter to the rest of us. I don't want to sound like a NORML crusader because I don't care enough, but my sphere of friends, past and present, including ridiculously successful doctors, lawyers, writers, priests, atheists, musicians, parents, the childless, etc., have no issue with pot. They use it rarely or often...cancer survivor or audiophile...and they are all FINE. |
Wait...in denial about what? Wait...you're right. I admit to everything. |
I almost cried at a concert...I got my finger stuck in a speaker stand while setting up a sound system for a Pat Donahue show. After the show I told Pat that this concert had a strong effect on my guitar playing...he thanked me and then I told him it was due to the fact that I SMASHED MY FINGER. |
During a recent 9 year stint where I designed and ran a soundsystem for a monthly concert series, we also did a local cable TV interview show with the musicians playing a few live songs I'd record (single large diaphragm condenser mic mixed to a high end CD burner with light stereo reverb in some cases). I wasn't familiar with all the artists before taping, so I'd be sitting there at the board with my headphones on and the artist would start playing something that would blow my mind...John Gorka, Lucy Kaplanski, Garrison Star, and many others...a really intense thing...unforgettable. |
This thread just chewed the fun out of my gum. |
