Whest Phono Stages


Having owned several phono stages starting with a more entry level Clear Audio unit (which I actually think is still very nice) and moving up the rungs of the ladder to other offerings; I started to research something which would perform in all of the aspects of what I want. I entered into a long exchange with a friend of mine who has had or used far more phono preamps than I have and he told me that in his opinion the Whest Titan Pro delivered more to his ears than anything else he’s heard. He did not own this unit, it was far outside of his reach cost-wise ($12K); however a friend of his owned it and allowed him to use it for a period of time. He has used tube and solid stage preamps, so he has experience with multiple formats of presentation.

This opinion started my extensive reading from users of the various Whest phono stages and what I was finding is that most Whest users not only stay with Whest, they usually upgrade into newer and more expensive Whest products. Since there are no audio dealers that I am able to go to in order to audition a Whest as they are sold in the US directly from Whest in London, I decided to simply find a used one and find out how it performs for me in my system. I was open to any of the mid level Whest phono stages as all of them are on the expensive side and I didn’t wish to spend the money required to buy something like the Titan Pro, so I kept an eye on what was showing up on the used market. I also spent a fair amount of time exchanging e mails with James Henriot on the differences between the products and what I would get in performance as I was to move up the line. My take away is that all Whest phono stages share elements of the top of the line products like the Titan Pro or the Reference V dual independent mono stages. The more the cost, the more the refinement and specialty elements such as suspension chassis to isolate the internal electronics from vibrations or more discreet hand matched components. It’s all about how much you are willing to pay to get to a new level to dig out the information cut into the vinyl.

Several months ago I found a very lightly used, almost new Whest Three Signature which is a main phono stage chassis with an external dual mono power supply and I bought it. I was shocked at how heavy the power supply is! This small chassis with the toroid transformer must weigh 5 pounds. The construction of both chassis units is really quite outstanding with a beautiful front panel and dual specially made XLR cables which run from the power supply to the main preamp.

The performance of this mid range phono stage ($4K new) is simply amazing. The details it digs out with tremendous dynamic output; it just puts to shame the other preamps I have used over the past two years. I can see why people who use Whest phono stages rave about them.

So now what do I do? Am I to stay with this Whest Three Signature from here forward and be very content? Or what is next? OK, next...... I just ordered a brand new NOS build Whest 2019 version PS.30 RDT SE using the front end components from the new PS.40 RDT series, Clarity caps, zero floating voltage, full chassis suspension, new heavier toroid dual high voltage/current transformers, full discrete bipolar PS.40 matched input section... .etc, etc. James said this 2019 version is a very different animal than all previous PS.30 RDT SE’s. I will have an opportunity shortly to test this against my fully broken in Whest Three.... can’t wait! With the Three  as good as it is, I am very hopeful that I’ll be in for a super treat. I just hope that I am not going to end up spending to get a Titan Pro by year end.....
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I've caught up on this thread with great interest.  I'm considering the PS.40RDT and curious if anyone owns this and could provide feedback.
@slimpikns5 and @boxer12   

Appreciate the insight and feedback.  I'm very curious about trying a SS phono pre in my system to compare against my tube Herron VTPH2A.  Different topologies and certainly much different sonic approach.  The bloom and liquidity of the tubes versus the detail and silent noise floor of the SS.  My curiosity wants to compare!
@slimpikins5  

If you log onto the Whest Audio website and look at the customer testimonials, you will find hundreds of actual user reviews and most will list their system and what they had been using for a phono stage prior to the Whest.  It will give a great insight into what the guys out there found for comparison; you will also notice that no one is looking back at their decision.... that says a lot to me.

Yes, I read through many of the testimonials last night and they are quite impressive.  I didn't see any direct comparisons to the Herron but I did see some to the Manley Steelhead which says a lot as it's a nice tube pre.  I have placed a inquiry message into the folks at Whest.
If the USD continues it rout on world currency, including the British pound, I may actually be able to afford the PS 40 RDT SE.  Been chatting with James about it...what a great guy he is with customers.
How would you Whest owners describe the Whest "house sound"?  I guess I'm somewhat guarded against an uber hi-fi, forward yet detailed sound signature.  I'm looking for some fluidity and ease to my vinyl presentation.
@ferrari275  I appreciate you weighing in with your experience.  That is how I imagine the sound after reading the reviews.  Perhaps evoking an immediate "wow" from the clean, clear, bright presentation but then as your brain settles in you may realize it's not completely organic and leans towards hifi-ish.  While I can see a lot of systems benefiting perhaps from that pairing I don't think mine would.  The more I dig into my quest for a next phono pre the more I think I want to stick with quiet tubes akin to a Luxman EQ-500 or VAC Renaissance phono which provide nice neutral, organic flow, and ease. 
For the past several weeks I've been checking out James' Instagram posts which I think provide some glimpse into the Whest sound - granted as well as can be expected through a phone or iPad.  Even through a cheap playback device I'm using I can tell the sound is clean and crystal clear so I understand why people are enamoured with these units.  I'm just not sure it's the sound for me or would really compliment my system and my room.  
@boxer12  Yeah, the further I dig into the Whest phonos the more I don't think they align with my musical priorities, nor does any SS phono stage I now believe.  Being honest with myself I think the one attribute I really was attracted to was a dead quiet presentation.  I do appreciation your reflections from experience on the 3 Signature.  Perhaps someday I'd try one.
I suppose this is another data point to suggest the Whest line perhaps isn't for me.  The Anthem M1 sound definitely isn't for me - I know plenty of folks like them and that's why we all have choices but to my ears they are less than neutral, clean, and dry but very powerful - perhaps almost best in a HT application.  If Whest appeals to the same market that enjoys these high powered Class D amps then I'm virtually certain that Whest wont work to my priorities and in my system.  This thread has been incredibly helpful and it's awesome knowing people love their equipment.  Sonic bliss is the goal after all!