Where do you go after a Dynaudio C1 ?


I have been scouting for a pair of speakers to replace my Dynaudio C1, which after many years of enjoyment I now find voiced to relaxed for my taste. I am looking for speakers that comes as close as possible to the raw sound and timbre of voices and instruments with minimal house coloration, speakers that energize a room to give an electrifying feel of presence, speakers that convey both refined subtlety and explosive dynamics with effortlessness. This have to be smallish, either a standmount or small footprint floorstander, must work in condo-type living room, and synergize with high power rowland amp I use.

Two speakers I have listened to and consider top candidates are the Magico V2 and Focal Utopia Diablo. These seem to possess the attributes I seek. Given my parameters, what other speakers do you think I should consider? Buying new with budget $15,000 max, less the better. Please note purchase will be in the Philippines, where most small specialty brands are not available.
noelpastor

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Hessec,

Could you share your thoughts on your experience moving from C1 to V2.. what type of and level of improvement did you achieve ? I listened to the V2 using Lamm amp and Naim source in a dealer system and it was heavenly.

Kiwi,

I have read the strongly positive reviews on Raidho C1-x. Unfortunately there are no local dealers of Raidho where I am, I emailed them already. You mentioned you feel the C-1.x is a big step-up to the C1, and in your system page you mentioned the Raidho stands toe to toe with the Diablo. Can you give more comment on your take comparing C-1.x / Diablo / C1.

Mike / Mapman,

In the dealer system using Rowland electronics, I actually thought the Diablo was voiced on the warm side of things, not as warm and relaxed as my C1 but certainly not bright. What's amazing to me is that this subtle warmth does not come at the expense of a softened treble, w/c I feel the C1 suffers.
Peter_s,

My current amplification is a Jeff Rowland integrated, and before this a Plinius 9200 integrated. The rowland was a big jump from the Plinius, and the Plinius was no slouch, but in both amps, the relaxed treble character of the C1 remained. Please note I am speaking in relative terms, as the C1's top end is probably considerably more open than other relaxed sounding speakers. But compared to speakers like the Diablo or V2, where the top end soars and electrifies, I felt these speakers are able to better convey the intensity of some instruments like guitars, drums, cymbals and even piano. Even voices are subtly better rendered.

Hessec,

Nice thoughts on V2 vs. C1, that is helpful. It is interesting you mention the C1 has more bass slam than the bigger V2, to me this may be a plus given my acoustically challenged condo living room. When you say it took you a while to adjust to the sound of a sealed box, can you explain further. Also in terms of ease and flexibility of positioning, w/c is a strength of the C1, how did you find the V2?
I have actually auditioned the new C1 Mark II, though not in my system. While the comment that this new version sounds clearer and more open at low to moderate volume, I doubt it will give me the raw uncolored tonality I now seek. I really want to go a different direction, I have heard Sonus Fabre, Spendor and Harbeth top line models (own P3 myself), while these speakers have strengths, this is NOT what I seek.

Hessec, your comments reinforced the V2 as one of my top candidate. Raidho, ATC, Vapor Cirrus all not available where I am, and I prefer to purchase something that has local support. Tidal is another brand that came up in my search, but again no local reseller. So it is still the V2 and Diablo in the running.
I may have misrepresented my view on the Dynaudio C1. I think it is one heck of a killer reference speaker, within the limits of its design and voicing, and with the right electronics. It does so many types of music so well, that for an all-around speaker in its price range it is hard to top, and believe me I have heard quite a bit of speakers over the 7 years I have used this and did not make me think of jumping ship. It's just that at this point I would like to try a different direction.

The ATC suggestion won't work, as I am overseas, and I rather not mess with shipping boxes of speakers just to hear what a line of speakers sound like.
Thanks to all your comments. The YG Carmel and Kipod has been suggested to me enough times that I might listen to these, fortunately there is a local reseller of this brand.

Pani, I understand you came from a Dyn Contour 1.3SE before the ATC. I enjoyed the 1.3SE for 3 years before the C1. The C1 is quite a sonically huge jump in all parameters.