What stereo amp sounds better than digital monos?


I want to replace a pair of Red Dragon digital mono blocks with an excellent SS stereo amp of approx 150 RMS.I have Acoustic Zen Adagios speakers

I am not interested in tube amps or tube rolling. Need input and/or recommnedations. I CANNOT afford $5000 ARC, Levinson, Krell or other super high end basic power amp. In the past, have considered Odyssey Stratos SE, McCormack DNA-1 upgraded to "REV B" or "REV A" level; also, the better Conrad Johnson SS power amps. Thank you.
sunnyjim

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Thanks to all responded so far. To Mapman: Boulder amps are off the scope in price....see used items on AG under their name. The old lady would put me under a "boulder" if I spent 15 to 20K for an amp. The question must be ask: how is (or should)a $20,000 plus amp "supposed" to sound to validate the investment

The Redwine amps are low powered, don't come up often, and I play it louder tham 75db I have been told that the McCormack DNA-.05 is the best sounding of most of the DNA series, EVEN before the REV A, B, C,level modds. You rarely see a DNA-125 come up which might make a good platform for at least the B level modds. The DNA-1 amps even if it can be purchased for $600, is about $1600 total with Level B modds, and much much more to get the gold REV A.
To Daniel, I have a Bel Canto PRe-3 pre-amp line stage which is excellent. I believe it has balanced outputs...amd also has RCA outputs for the amp. I am not sure what you mean by a "truly balanced pre-amp" I assume that the Rowland amp like Sim Audio amps sound best only with balanced inputs/outputs.

To Mapman, Excellent suggestion. However there are no Boulder dealer in Honolulu; There is a Soulution dealer, but I don't relish lifting 120lbs small frig of an amp or its $45,000 price tag. Nevertheless, a good suggestion. It look like a modded McCormack is my future. Hopefully, it sounds outstanding as so many claim and not like an Adcom, Dynaco or BK amps of some years ago. Thanks!!!
To Daniel...Thank you for the explanation

To Tmsorosk: Excuse me!!! so I was off by $10,000 or so. I saw your set-up. Very nice, but the MK#431 is not in my price range: new, used, or in kit form (LOL)
JohnnyB53. Audiogon keeps assuring me that they will soon install off-line e-mail contact with "thread" responders, like the good old days before furniture and camera ads appeared in the margins. The set-up now sucks.....Nevertheless, to answer your question. Red Dragons M-500 are very good for the money, so I don't have a particular clawing complaint. I have caught the upgrade bug again, and just assume there is a "better" amp out there for my speakers and system. I have some minor quibbles: speaker connections on the amps are only spade lugs, held in place by a plastic bar and knurled knob that can be torqued tight. However, they will not accomodate banana plugs, or possibly bare wire a solder tip. The on/off switch is on the back of each amp which is not very accessible if you are using a component rack. I could keep the amps on all the time, but prefer not to. They are built well.

Sound wise, ONCE THEY BREAK IN, they provide good, neutral, detailed sound which (to me)is also somewhat tipped up, and bass is good but not outstanding.

I used Acoustic Zen Hologram 2 cable for 2 years, and there was no interfacing problem. The Dragons drive the AZ Adagios very well. Interestingly, I recently changed speaker cable because the fire hose girth of AZ cables was getting to be difficult to deal with. The cables now are less expensive Audio Art SC-5 which are remarkable sounding cables for the money, (but I still have not reached any final conclusion about them). They were pre-burned at the factory, and I don't have more than 20 hours on them, but the sound stage seems larger and the bass a tighter...BUT... there is fullness lacking in mids which Hologram 2 cable had in spades.

OK, so let me cut to the chase, some bloggers claim class "D" digital amps sound good but the listener is less drawn into the music which is less natural sounding compared to a class A amps, or "some" mega bucks amps.

So should I should buy into to that?? No!! and I don't, but nevertheless, I have seem enough testimonials about the sound quality and performance level of other amps to consider if there may be a better amp for my system. Many of us have been doing hi-end audio for years, or at least a percentage of years to be aware of hype, the law of diminsihing returns ratio to price, component interface and cable dilemmas, and room acoustics anomalies, and also "philes" who may just need ear wax removal and are not as golden ears as they like others to believe. Be that as it may, part of the fun of this hobby/obsession is making new musical discoveries that brings us deeper and closer to the music. Several threads would be needed to plummet the depth of the question of when you have reached the nirvana of sound. Let me just say, I could never reached the level of musical enjoyment and satisfaction without upgrading the system over the years, and trying different components. I hope this helps. Jim
To Tholt, Sorry, but what are "reco's" If you mean reconnaissance. I spoke to Robert Lee about 2-3 years ago, and he claimed almost any amp works well with AZ's, including SET amp...but,I am not into flea power. However, I was told by the designer and owner of Red Dragon that he often uses AZ's Adagios at CES. He finds the synergy very good. (See my response to JohnnyB52) Your suggestion is well taken.