What's Your Experience with Digital Switching Amp?


The ICE class-D amplifier modules (with self-oscillating transistors) have started a new generation of digital switching amps (DSAs for short) for people interested in high-quality sound at affordable price. If you own one of these amps, I am very curious about how it performs in your home, how it compares to other solid-state and tube amps, and especially how it compares to other switching amps that are starting to appear out there. To start things off, I will go first with you my own—very positive—experience with the Velluto DSA (Analog Research-Technology; 500 wpc; $2800). I’d love to hear your experience with your own DSA in return.

A LITTLE BACKGROUND

I am not an electrical engineer so I hope you will forgive my errors in summarizing the inherent problems with the ICE modules. Out of the box, the frequency response of the ICE module is far from flat. Class-D modules are also very susceptible to RF that can make them sound awful. The ICE modules, like all class-D modules, emit EMI that can create havoc with the sound as well. Like many solid-state (ss) amplifiers, most DSAs have relatively low input impedance that makes them difficult to be driven by a tube preamp. How designers solved these problems affects the amp’s performance.

After a long search—there are quite a few suspicious DSAs in generic boxes out there!—I settled on the Velluto Digital Switching Amp from Analog Reseach-Technology, a firm located here in Dallas, for several reasons: 1) Living in Dallas, I can audition it exhaustively before purchasing; 2) I like previous products by Pat Digiacomo, the engineer who designs and builds these amps in-house with eyes toward great sound at a reasonable cost; 3) Unlike many DSAs that use off–the-shelf chassis and generic front panel, the Velluto comes in a custom chassis with a massive front panel finished in attractive brushed silver. I will skip the description of the amp’s looks, features, and circuitry—I can tell you about them later if you are interested—and go directly to the most important thing about this DSA: its sounds.

THE SOUND OF MY VELLUTO DIGITAL SWITCHING AMP

I have listened to the Analog Research Velluto for a few months now and the sound of this amp is quite unlike that of any other amp that I’ve ever owned, solid-state or tube. The Velluto’s sound is wonderful: silky, dynamic, and expansive. As I just recently RE-discovered Audiogon and read interesting threads about the H2O amps, which I believe uses the same ICE modules as the Velluto, I realize that I am not alone in my enthusiasm for the sound of a DSA. One thing I noticed immediately about the Velluto’s sound was the bass: tight, deep, dynamic, and abundant! Compared to the Velluto, my Rowland Model 7 monoblocks sounded anemic in the bass, which is hard to believe with 300 wpc of class AB power. The bass on my BAT VK-60 monoblocks was as dynamic as the Velluto’s, but with clearly less depth, tightness, and volume. Another thing that captivates me is the Velluto’s midrange. It is very smooth, but not liquid like my BAT’s midrange or neutral like my Rowland’s, or analytical like many SS amps I dislike. Rather, it is silky smooth. I have never heard such midrange before from any amp, tube or solid-state. It is quite an alluring sound, worthy of the amp’s name— I think Velluto means velvety in Italian. The highs are extended and detailed—that was expected from a frequency response that’s down less than 0.3dB at 20 KHz—but surprisingly without the dryness, or edginess of many ss amps.

But the one thing I love most about this amp is its soundstage: it is positively gargantuan. It extends so deep and so wide beyond the speakers that you feel like the walls of your room have dematerialized. The sound just seems to expand for ever beyond the speakers to fade away at a far distance. It is quite an uncanny effect. By comparison, the sound of my BATs is more intimate but bunched up in the middle with far less information around. It becomes obvious that the BATs, like many tube amps, is missing quite a bit of high-frequency information which, by subtraction, gives the illusion of a very focused and dynamic midrange. I now much prefer the panoramic sound of the Velluto, especially for orchestral music though the BATs still have their moment with intimate music.

THE FUTURE OF DIGITAL SWITCHING AMPS IN HIGH-END AUDIO

Without trying to be controversial, I feel that many manufacturers with great reputation based their own successful designs will not readily adopt these ICE modules in their new amps. The poor sound of traditional class-D amps will not help promote these new DSAs either. On the other hand, some well-known high-end manufacturers like Jeff Rowland have already started to offer many models based on the ICE modules. When designed right, these new DSAs can remove many limitations of older ss designs: excessive heat, large heatsink fins, cumbersome size, heavy chassis that strain backs and cost a fortune to ship, insufficient power and bass, analytical sound, edgy highs, or constricted soundstage. This is assuming that all the kinks in the DSAs are worked out properly. For example, these amps may have to be rolled off (!) a little more for tube lovers who just can’t get used to the additional information in the highs and the panoramic soundstage—I’m not one of them but some of my friends are. You also have to be extremely mindful of nasty RF and EMI gremlins still sneaking into the sound. The Velluto overcomes these hurdles successfully but I doubt that all DSAs out there have identical sounds.

I am keenly interested in hearing the impressions of other (I hope very happy) owners of DSA amps.

Justin_Time


My Audio System:

Speakers: Watts/Puppies 5
Amps (Balanced): Rowland Model 7s, BAT VK-60s
Preamps (Balanced); BAT VK5, Rowland Consumate w/ phono stage
Analog source (Balanced): SOTA Cosmos, Graham 2.2, Sumiko Geneis, Benz, Koetsu
Digital source: Sony DVP 9000ES (for SACD only)
Power cords: TaraLabs Prism AC Special and RSC; homemade hospital-grade PC
Speaker cables: OCOS Triple runs, MIT CVT, Straightwire Maestro
Interconnects: Onix GMR XLR, homemade XLR (Nutric connectors/microphone cables)
Miscellaneous cables: Audioquest phono cable; TaraLabs digital cable/special termination
justin_time

Showing 13 responses by muralman1

$100? That's not I was told. I think a multiple array of Black Gates will run you more than that.

I meant to use the term, "drier." It's different.
Hey Justin time, I like the name. I was an early convert to ICE magic. I owned the eAR, loved it over any solid state amp I had owned. I sold it to Ramy, and later bought H2O signature monoblocks. The improvement was significant. The H2O has a robust power supply.

I know people who have crossed to H2O from great tube amps, and solid states, as well as class D amps suggested here, including Tripath's best.
The H2O Sig monos have been reviewed by 6Moons

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/h2o/m250.html

You can see what they are made of there. I am not conversant in amp technology. I do know the power supply would do well for a class A solid state. All H2O amp components are chosen to bring out the best of the new technology.

I know the stereo H2O Signature has dual toroidals.

I did a search, and couldn't find the Velluto.

You are correct in your understanding of RF, and EMI problems. They are easily controlled if you use shielded power cords on not just the amps, but all components. I made my own using Belden wire, and Marinko plugs.

Now, here is a tip for you, Justin time. Ditch the MIT CVT. Frankly, for speaker cables, I have found nothing better than the absurdly cheap Speltz Anti-Cables.
Kana, do I sense an edge to your post? I think Danlib 1's answer about cables
should be sufficient for you.

Hype is not the proper term to apply to the praise being sung, by many, over
the H2O. FYI, one fellow, I know, sold his recently bought TacT amps, and
replaced them with 2 S-250 Signatures.
Kana, I made that statement based on conversations with Henry, where he talked of his amp evolution. I know some of the ingredients that go into his amps, and I trust him on all others. You have to know something about Henry. He is trying to make the best amp he can. That is more important to him than sales.
Jfox, this is a thread topic that covers the new breed of amps that don't do as well with MITs and like. I didn't make a "blank statement." I said, as you quoted, "You should....," meaning Justin-time.

Cable designers molded their creations to suit their use. The choices at MIT's inception were solid state, and tube. They work well for some solid state. But, we're not talking solid state here.
Mr_bill, You have commented on your eVO amp, and I have made my comments, as well as quoted other people's comments, on my amp. I am interested in people's opinions on the amps they've heard. How about you?
I'm not saying there are no differences between solid states, just less so than between these new fast switching amps.
I have listened extensively to the eAR, TacT (heavily modified), eVO, and the H2O. The two ICE based amps do share some tonality characteristics, but their presentation diverge remarkably. The eVO is a second cousin to those two, at best. The Tact is similar in it's detail retrieval, while being drier.

I feel there are wider differences between "switching" amps than there is between solid state amps.
Tell me, Kana, how much would it cost to full modify a TacT amp to sound it's best? I saw your referral to a page that looked like a complete power supply redo. Shouldn't the TacT people work on getting their product right in the first place?
Tvad, I appreciate the criticism. I am the most vocal supporter of the H2O. Im sure being a good friend of the H2O builder has something to do with my overenthusiasm. Increasingly, as you can see, I am not alone.

H2O does not have a marketing scheme. There is no advertising. Sales had been generated solely by word of mouth. Now there has been a show, and a publicized review.

Eventually, I will slip back into audio oblivion, much to the satisfaction of many. Maybe I should take up evangelizing. Seems their preaching earns praise. :)

BTW - The word "hype" denotes dishonesty, which there never has been a case for. Read the reviews.