What’s really hurting the audio hobby?


Maybe it’s the audio dealer experience? Where else can newbies go to get started in this hobby. Isn't that where most of you got hooked?  Let me describe my latest visit to an audio store nearby. I won’t use the store name here, as that’s not the point.  Where I live there is really only one audio store left. That’s strange because I live in a very wealthy community. The Friday after Independence day, me and a friend went to this local audio store.  First time back there in years. We are both looking to upgrade. They have 3 audio rooms and two home theater rooms. The hi-end audio room (the store’s term) was an impressive room with extensive acoustic treatments. Mostly McIntosh gear. Sitting in the listening chair, you are looking at 600 watt Mac monoblocks running some nice tower speakers. A massive JL Audio Gotham subwoofer unit sat front and center facing the only listening chair. The McIntosh turntable was spun first. Sloooowww. It took my friend less than five seconds to point out the TT was running slow. The salesman had started to play Pink Floyd-Wish You Were Here, and it was noticeably slow. So the salesman flipped the switch to 45 rpm. Yes, that happened. He figured out it was too fast all on his own. Fiddle and poke at the TT for a bit and then the salesman said- "I’ll let them know it’s broke". Then he said he would just stream some music from a server. Bass! All you could hear was bass, and NOT good bass. He turned the subs down a little when asked, but all you could hear was tubby, muddy bass. The big tower speakers were overpowered by the sub.  I really wanted to hear what the main speakers alone sounded like, but could not get the salesman to shut off the subs.  On to the mid-fi room (the store’s term). The salesman tried to play us two different turntables. Neither turntable worked. One would not power up, and one was not hooked up to a system at all. Let me point out we didn’t care what source they used. I did say we both run analog and digital sources. Nothing interesting in the mid-fi room the first time through. Next room (no name) was a wall of bookshelf and small towers run by a wide selection of integrated amps. Not bad sound from some. Again, we were told this is “streaming quality audio”. This was the third time he mentioned we were listening to streaming quality audio. I took a guess at what that meant and asked if we could hear higher quality audio. So he took us back to the mid-fi room. He popped in a CD.I could not tell what CD equipment was being used. I think a Rotel integrated was selected. Everything in the cabinet was black faced behind dark glass. Not sure what CD it was either, but since he only had one, I let it go.

Big change! The Paradigm towers were now making good sounds. A big difference from his “streaming quality” demo. Next we switched to a pair of GE Triton 1s. I seriously might get a pair! They make nice sounds. By far the best thing we heard. There was more that happened that contributed to a poor experience, but I will move on.

Here is my point- What would anyone new to the hobby think of that experience? It took two seasoned audio guys pushing the salesman for over an hour before he played anything worth listening to. Would you buy anything from this place. Would you send a newbie in there? Let me know if I'm off base in thinking these audio stores are killing themselves off by the way they do business. Or is it just my misfortune that I have not been in a good dealer showroom in years?

vinylfan62
Retail is a problem though my experience is less that they are inept and more that they are jerks. 

One guy guy told me my music sucked which is why it didn’t sound good on the speakers I was demoing.  Another expounded for 45 minutes on why speakers should be so neutral.  Another couldn’t believe I like a less expensive speaker in a better pairing than one that was bright and fatiguing.  retail is awful.

but worse, go out to audiophiles North America on facebook and say you want an entry level tube amp and then 30 people tell you that you’re an idiot for wanting noisy tube gear.  

Basically, unhelpful, know-it-all audiophiles who are jerks to anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their explicit view of good sound.  That is what I think the problem is.
I wouldn't worry too much about the condition of audio. Each passing generation decries what is lacking in the next.  Youth are getting their music---SUV sound systems have 6-10 speakers and sound pretty good.  I Phones and ear buds aren't half bad. Even through the phone's speakers, the sound seems to be all there on a small scale.  Headphone audio is very affordable, with great sound.  Being out of doors and traveling seems more important now than ever for young folks.  Big-scale audio is not the priority of youth today in the US. Has the younger market shifted to Europe and Asia?  
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IMO, the only thing that would truly hurt the audio hobby would be for artists to stop making good music.
Playback options and preferences will change and yesterday's gear may become obsolete but the audio hobby will continue to thrive.....maybe just not as we have known it.
Regarding your question,
Where else can newbies go to get started in this hobby.
I would answer, the same place most folks go to learn about anything these days, the internet, at least as a starting point.  You will learn way more than at any dealer.  However, at some point you are going to need to physically see and hear what you have been reading about so, if you are lucky enough to have a good audio dealer nearby then go visit, otherwise, go to an audio show where there will be a wide range of equipment to see and hear.