What makes Telefunken tubes sound better?


I've reached the point in sampling 12AU7 tubes below $100 per tube where I'm having to buy tube crates to keep the pairs I've sampled. I've tried NOS and new, but out of all I end up back with Telefunkens as having the least distortion and fastest transient response. Yet the Telefunken internals are not the best materials/quality; NOS Mullard CV4003 or the new Gold Lions have higher build quality for materials and precision.

Are there links somewhere that talk to what is different for the internal design/construction of a Telefunken tube? I'd like to support newer tube manufacturers based on educated consumerism, and hope that we can get someone to replace Telefunken at an affordable cost before NOS stock is no longer an option.
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Schubert lived in Germany for a time and is an astute observer. I would be slow to dismiss his observations.

My experience with Germans is limited to the field of organic chemistry in an industrial setting, and further limited to brief customer/client interactions usually by teleconference.

That said, I get the impression there is a pretty strict hierarchy in Germany, and woe to the soul who speaks out of place. The Germans (with good reason) assume no American can speak German, so occasionally, I caught a chemist getting a bit of a scolding and told to shut up in German, with the assumption that we would be oblivious to the scolding.

In the US, there is a hierarchy of a different sort. There are two levels. Those who got PhDs or did post doctoral work at Harvard, and those who didn't. But even that hierarchy isn't absolute. It is my impression that distinct corporate cultures are common in the US, so that generalizations are difficult.

There was a time when the phrase "old world craftsmanship" had real meaning. I'm not sure that phrase has any relevancy now. What I see, and this has been discussed previously in the context of a loss of characteristic distinctions in orchestras across the world, is a homogenization of everything. Everyone benchmarks and conforms to what the next guy is doing. Once I asked one of the chosen ones, "Did you have to go to Harvard to learn how to copy what your competitors have been doing for the last 3 years? Is that all you got? I wish I had a video of the death glare.

In medicine you have white papers, in music, you have traveling conductors and even traveling orchestras, in industry you have benchmarking to define best practices.

If you stand back and look from a difference, it looks like the second law of thermodynamics has cultural and sociological corollaries. What is the musical equivalent of heat death? One note, played ad infinitum by one instrument, without deviation in tone, timbre, dynamics, etc? Minimalism taken to its logical conclusion.

In industry, I suppose we will see all companies marching in lockstep, doing the same things in the same ways, then trying to figure out why they can't beat their competitors- Wait, the Harvard boys have the answer, you need to work harder than everyone else! I need more bricks, and you can't have any straw. Sure is nice being retired!

Does any of this help explain why Telefunken tubes are so good?
Jafreeman, there are those who would argue that the government's interference in survival of the fittest has actually widened the gulf and is additionally adding to the demise of the middle class.

We have more poor people post "great society" than we did before. Motivation to enter the lowest rung of the ladder, from which one can then rise through hard work and discipline, has been moderated by social "safety nets" that have made it attractive to stay out of entry level jobs.

If you pay people not to work, people won't work. The gulf widens. Well intentioned safety nets protect people from their own bad decisions. Survival of the fittest requires that people take an occasional mugging from reality. Removing that pain is compassionate in the short term, but really represents an unwise patronization of a segment of the bell shaped curve.

I have a huge heart. I used to be a liberal. It does't work.
Schubert, I am slowly developing a theory that the peculiar characteristics of German culture and worldview, as those of us who grew up and lived in the 20th century came to know it, are due primarily to one historical event. The 30 Years War. Comments?
Schubert, Both you and I had humble beginnings and did rather well. That is the exception, not the rule.

Mapman makes a good point above. I have referred to it as a culture of mediocrity. Since I have not lived in Germany, I am going to defer to your judgment. Stipulating that what you say about class distinctions is true, the question becomes to what extent is the distinction in classes in the US actively vs passively supported. Is the distinction one that is actively enforced, or a natural outcome of a culture of mediocrity?

I'm still looking for a good history book on the 30 years war. Double clicking on your comments re Luther, Bismark etc., it could be argued that everything on your list directly or indirectly derived from the Lutheran Reformation.