What is the future for Proac Speakers ?


I have always enjoyed their speakers and have owned them in the past. However, from what I have heard, they are no longer being imported into the US due to distribution problems, the main engineer is no longer there and Mr. Tyler's future is in question. I also see an increase in Proac's being sold here on Audiogon. Does anybody know what's going on at Proac ????
garebear
There in a world of hurt.
It's a conspiracy to get people to sell their speakers for low prices.
..thank Audiogon members for your informative responses. Hopefully the usual cast of thread locusts have come and gone and maybe now I will get some real answers.
Amen to that Garebear.
What you said was all news to me, and I'm sorry to hear it. I owned their speakers in the past, and have a lot of respect for Stuart Tyler as a speaker designer.
...I am not saying in anyway they are defunct or going under....just looking to see if anybody knows what's going on with them .....and say if I did buy a pair and something went wrong....where would a buyer find any re-course ?
I don't think there is any problem. Companies lose distributors. It happened with Spendor a few years ago until they where picked up by another one. I took a look at their site and it looks like they have many new products, so I doubt they are folding. You should shoot them an Email if you are concerned about it and I am sure they will give you the low down on the situation.
"You should shoot them an Email if you are concerned about it and I am sure they will give you the low down on the situation.
Yogiboy (Threads | Answers | This Thread)"

A business will never tell you that they're in trouble. They keep stuff like that a secret for as long as possible.
I agree that many companies change distributors, sometimes things improve afterwards, sometimes not. I would not have a problem with the Email approach. Feedback value will much depend on nature of question(s) asked. To ask if they are in trouble will not likely garnish much towards satisfying any concerns.
A quick google search revealed to me that there's only been one Proac dealer for the last 30 years and it's Modern Audio: http://proac-usa.com/.

There've been other threads elsewhere where the same question has come up through the years.

All the best,
Nonoise
It appears that proac-usa is the importer/distributor of the speakers, not a dealer, and it speaks to stability if this company has been the distributor for 30 years. In my area (Northern Va./Washington DC), Deja-Vu Audio is the local dealer. They have several models on the showroom floor and I have not heard anything about these speakers becoming no longer available.
Modern Audio is indeed the distributor in the US. I had occasion to call there a few weeks ago, and during our brief conversation my primary sense of things was that the guy wanted to get off the phone as quickly as possible.

In conversation with a well-established high-street dealer in the greater DC/Maryland area (who does not sell Proacs), he stated that he could not think of a less pro-active distributor than Modern Audio. I have no opinion on the matter, merely report this opinion. As far as I can tell they do not distribute any other brands.

As far as I remember, Proac took a series misstep with the Future line, and while they have now come back to the tried and true, their current prices when translated into US$ must make them somewhat difficult to sell, given the fierce competition in the loudspeaker market. I know that I looked at them seriously recently and passed.
What matters the most is how they sound to you; if you like any particular current model, it really doesn't matter that much what is in their future. I like their current lineup; their stand-mounted speakers are certainly competitive with other models from popular favorites like Harbeth. The floorstanders with the ribbon tweeters are quite good and Proac has done a better job at integrating a ribbon tweeter with dynamic drivers than most who have attempted this feat (only Raidho comes to mind as having really done this well).

It is still worth looking into their speakers if you have liked the sound of their line in the past.
I have owned a few models and still have D-15's. After visiting Axpona, the 15's give up nothing to any competitors in terms of imaging, detail or sweetness. They do give up scale and soundstage to the best of them but the best are huge and very expensive. In fact, the visit reassured me my system is fine - I was getting a little anxious but re-visited some great recordings (SACD included) and I'm satisfied but thinking of improving my amplification - most rooms had great amps and you could hear it in the husky depth of many male vocalists - at least that's my interpretation.
Mcondo,
Can you please describe the ProAc sound? What other speakers are you familiar with? I did like the Focal Aria, Tannoy, Sony, Audio Physic and Legacy at AXPONA. Really liked the KEF Reference series. But that is a bit beyond reach at this point. I have always wondered about PMC and got some great feedback from Twoleftears. Also considering ProAc D30R and Spendor D7.
I know it would be foolish to purchase anything without listening. Hence I am hoping to get some feedback before I travel a few hours to audition.
I guess the sound would be akin to a sweet mid range, with great clarity on the top end. Bass is exceptional if acoustic bass is used - otherwise a little congested with rock oriented electric bass. Not the best rock speaker, but excellent for Americana, folk, vocalists or jazz. They need some power, something I'm a little short on with my YBA Passion integrated. Highly compressed modern recordings are unlistenable - not sure if it's the speaker or me. I compared to Dynaudio which were a little too hot in the highs for my taste. I did not like the D-15's bi-wired and use Herbie's gliders under stock feet. YMMV.
I own Proac and Harbeth now as well as B&W. I have also owned many other UK speakers including other BBC inspired models.

Proac's slogan Perfectly Natural really does summarize their sound. They are more open and cleaner than the classically styled Harbeth, Spendor or Stirling models.

I run older Tablettes and they are my favourite minis. They offer the natural midrange of BBC school speakers but offer a more open top end without getting bright. They do prefer a larger room to a smaller one.

If you cannot find Proac, modern Spendor models are a great alternative.The Classic Spendor series sounds armer like the Harbeths.

All great speakers if you love the UK sound like I do.

The thing I love about Proac is that classical music sounds so natural but I can also put on some early Black Sabbath or Deep Purple and they are just as plausible. The only thing missing of course is really deep bass on the smaller models.

Hello everybody, I am Stewart Tyler MD and Designer of ProAc

Speakers. I think I had better explain what has happened in the

last few years. My trainee designer left and joined Modern Audio

to make an active speaker called MAD. Unfortunately my importer

became sick, and has now died, making ProAc difficult to buy in the

States. The company ProAc and sister company Celef has had no

changes, and a new importer, The Sound Organisation (https://soundorg.com/proac/ )  has taken

over ProAc, and has a professional company with guys on the road

which the previous guy never had. More shops and better dem

facilities. Also new models the Tablette 10, DB1, D20 were never

really brought in to the States. We are now working on some new

designs, designed of course by me. Bad Rumours are not good,

and when somebody dies there will be confusion for a while.

My Son and Daughter help me run the company, and my Son in

law is fast becoming a good designer, especially cross overs.

Check out our Website designed by my Son, see what's new.

Good Luck to you all

Stewart

Thanks Stewart for your post.  I've never been a business owner, but I can only imagine the peaks and valleys you go through.  I for one love your speakers and can't wait to get a pair of your monitors for my dedicated listening room.  You're one of the top designers...up there with Richard Vandersteen, Jim Thiel, Bobby of Merlin, etc.

Looking forward to your future designs and Proacs longevity!
Best.....

Dear Mr. Tyler,

Welcome to Audiogon. I recently purchased a pair of D-30R's at Revelation Audio in Southern California. I've been extremely pleased with them and they continue to impress me with their musical capabilities. Keep up the great work and wishing you and the folks at Proac continued success.

Hi Guys, and thanks for the response, no pun intended, and the

flattery. There are new models on our website which is being upgraded

right now. As the Hi Fi world is changing we will continue to produce

hand crafted speakers, designed by myself to go in systems with

turntables, great tranny amps, and of course Valves which I love.

I have a few good CD players and a Marantz CD recorder which I copy

vinyl to cd in real time. We want to try and recreate music as you

would hear it live, not super market noise ,and not for convenience !

Listening should be an occasion, not rushed and you do not Hoover

with a background sound, as long as there are enthusiasts out there

we will be here to satisfy their needs.

all the best

Stewart

Thank you Stewart for clearing this up.  After many decades of listening and despite many new entries to the speaker market over that time, ProAc speakers remain among my top 5 in terms of speakers that are nicely detailed yet still sound like music rather than stereo equipment.  So it was very disconcerting to hear there was possibly trouble brewing, and I'm very glad and relieved to hear things are good and that your wonderful speakers continue to evolve and improve.  I look forward to reading about and hearing your latest work.  And congrats on getting a better distributor. 

Very glad to see Mr. Tyler weighing in personally in this thread. I own a pair of Response D2s. These recently supplanted a pair of Response 1SCs that I raised from a pup and that had graced my system for over 10 years, so you can count me as one of the legion of fans of the Proac sound. I would like to add a note that I had some dealings with the new US distributor, The Sound Organisation, and found their customer service to be exemplary. I'm also pleased to discover that there's now a Proac dealer within easy driving distance of my home. This is a very hopeful sign of things to come.
Wow, thank you for the update, Mr. Tyler. I am at this very moment warming up an ARC Ref-75 to play my still baby (400-hours) ProAc D30Rs, which I love. Bought them from Audio Concepts in Dallas after listening to nearly every speaker in the city multiple times. I can testify to the transparency and emotional connection of these speakers, and the professional service (and listening space) at Audio Concepts. I'm glad ProAc is such a significant part of their inventory.

I guess what I really mean to say is: thank you for these designs. They are works of art.
Hi Stewart,
    I just auditioned your Studio 148 last week; I really didn't think I'd be able to afford speakers that good, natural, balanced & musical. Rather than showing off--they just got out of the way, and let all the emotion shine through. Should be in my home early next year.  Thanks,

Kirk

Hi everyone,

I’ve been loving my ProAc studio 148s which is the largest audio component dollar-wise I’ve ever purchased. I usually buy used (see my page for details about the 2 channel analog system for vinyl and AV playback I’ve put together plus a picture that usually receives high praise). After listening to some D20s at Hawthorne Stereo I decided I wanted to go with a speaker that had more control in the lower frequencies. I ordered my 148s from them without an audition as Hawthrone only has the Response Line on their demo floor.  The 148s are very controlled in the lower end (25hz) plus keep the lovely mids and highs that ProAcs are known to reproduce.

Also, I use the Soundocity SEV9 outriggers (also pictured) and recommended this upgrade for anyone using ProAc towers (both for sound and stability). Stewart, you should give Soundocity a call about possibly bundling these outriggers with your towers.

https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/1634

:)
Great to hear from you Mr Tyler.
I have been using the Proac for the last 12 years. I had the ProAc d38 for almost 8 years but had to sell it due to move to a much smaller home. So now I am using the Response 2.5 in my main system, which I previously used it in my second system.
Currently trying to decide between the d20r and the d38r for my main system. I would love to get the d48r but just need a smaller foot print.