What is the best 2A3 SET Amplifier?


Hello all,
I am searching for the best 2A3 SET Amplifier for my Avantgarde 2.1. Please advice.
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Another vote for Moth, especially if you have Craig Uthus, the original designer, now at Eddie Current, do a power supply mod to it. I talked about this in SET Asylum but I'll recap it here.

Craig created an outboard power supply connected via military-grade umbilical to the amp, mounted the 5AR4 rectifier on top of the PS box, and converted the amp from DC to ultra-high-frequency, 40kHz AC on the heaters. The power supply is regulated and much stiffer now, and the amp runs far cooler. It should last pretty much forever.

Here's some of the technical info Craig sent me:

The power oscillator board is comprised of a discrete 18 watt power amplifier designed to run continuous sine wave power. The amplifier has current limiting, and provides a soft start for the DHT's when they are cold. On the amp is a plug in surface mount crystal controlled 40kHz oscillator board with output level adjustment. A single twisted pair brings the high frequency sine wave up to the amplifier chassis. Inside the amplifier at the tube sockets are a pair of ferrite core transformers, which provide isolation from the power oscillator and drive the 2A3 heaters. The transformers are wound 2:1 so 5V in is 2.5 volts out. The high frequency is calibrated to exactly 2.5V at the tube socket with the tubes operating.

I'm not a tech guy; I'm a listener. How does it sound? Fantastic. It's immensely improved, and it was really good to begin with. The sound is much more liquid and organic without losing any detail, and the sound stage has opened way up. The bass is tighter and more authoritative, and the amp is more dynamic and seems more powerful than before when driving either my 99 db Galante Silverdales or 96 db Omega Grande 8R speakers. Plus, it's absolutely *dead* quiet, which the original was not. I mean, with the attenuator wide open and my ear to the horn, I hear no sound at all. Amazing.

Craig thinks this is now the most refined DHT amp he's ever heard, and he's heard just about all of them. He might offer a production version through Eddie Current. It won't look as cool as the Moth but it'll be reasonably priced at something like $2,800. It's really quite a mesmerizing amp.

In the mean time, if you own or find a Moth S2A3, I strongly suggest you contact him about getting this PS mod. It's really something special and takes this already outstanding 2A3 amp to an entirely new plane.
Audio Note Japan.
Souga.
End of story.

(AN UK is a big joke if they are charging the Kondo Japan prices, which I think they are. Look at their factory, and product quality and that will answer any comparative queries...)
I like my Triode Labs 2A3M FFX monos a great deal. Just learning but loving them with my Rethm speakers

I own a Triode Lab 2a3i FFX that I simply love. The sound is pure, clear and unforced. It's quick and no frequencies are rolled off. I have a hybrid D class integrated with a tube front end if I'm feeling the need for a power player.

I don’t see there are any corelation between them and the current designers or copiers.

@edle The US was first to move away from SETs because superior technology appeared, developed in the US. Although SETs can be fun, they really don’t stand up to a other, later technologies, even on easy to drive speakers like the Duos. If you are looking for the nth degree in neutrality and musicality look elsewhere.

One problem is any SET that is zero feedback has only about 20-25% usable power with respect to full output. This is because if pushed past that power level, any zero feedback SET will start to sound ’dynamic’ due to distortion appearing on the leaded edge of musical transients. This is a problem unique to SETs. In a smaller room this would allow Duos to work with a 2A3 amp depending on the music.

Another problem is poor bandwidth, which results in phase shift at either end of the audio spectrum. Phase shift in the bass is heard as a lack of impact in the bass. Phase shift in the highs is heard as a darkness. Usually 2A3s are pretty good about bandwidth, but to really get it right without feedback you need full power bass response to 2Hz (to prevent phase shift at 20Hz) and the highs need to go to 100KHz (to prevent phase shift at 10KHz).

There are tube amps that can do 2Hz full power but they aren’t transformer-coupled.

That said, Whammerdyne hasn’t been mentioned yet and is one of the best 2A3 SETs I’ve heard.

But you can do better than any SET on the Duos. There are even class D amps that more than give SETs a run for the money- every bit as smooth, more detailed, yet relaxed and involving.