Ted, I guess when a cheaper competitor comes along we may see whether Nova needs this price. Since the first Mac came along with a price of $1995 when they had sought to get it in under $1000 I have found business decisions curious. Had Apple asked $1000 I doubt if MicroSoft would even be around today. Perhaps if Nova Physics had come in at < $5000, or with the dac at $7500, they would have ended competition. |
Kana813, yes I know the Behold is digital up to the amps. It is in the Behold suite only where I have heard the MP. Unfortunately, I miss the MP in the Virtual Dynamic suite at the last RMAF.
Clio09, how did the MP compare with the moded Wadia?
Bigamp, yours is the real question. This is why I regret not hearing it with its dac at the RMAF. |
La45, I think the Memory Player was also set up in another suite at the NYC Show, but I was not there. What you heard was what I have heard before at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest and at THE Show in Vegas. The Behold people use it as the transport for their all digital system. I have several times thought this system sounds pretty good, but never have I heard the MP in an application where I might be using it.
There are two major pitfalls in the MP in my opinion. One is its not being a complete computer. You have to use a specially programed computer to control it. Second, is the expense of the unit. You could certainly use a computer with a cd reader and store cpm on its hard drive. You would not have the flash memory playback capability and you would have to somehow get out of digital to your dac, using USB1.1 or 2 or Firewire, but there are dacs now that have such inputs. |
Scottr, are you getting the dac included? |
Audiooracle, why don't they include a processor within like the VRS system?
I still am looking for a review where the tube output dac is included. |
He did do a rave review and did comparisons with pro equipment. I don't know what dac he used, however, as none is mentioned. He interested me in this unit as did hearing it in the Behold suites. |
Clio09, thanks. I wish I had noticed it in this suite. I will certainly seek it out this coming Oct., if I don't get to hear it earlier. |
Mtkhl567, is it your impression that he used an onboard dac? He says he did not, having only the transport version. |
Rx8man, right you are. I seek experiences with the Memory Player in an analog system using its internal dac. I have never heard it any way other than as the frontend of the digital Behold system. |
Smargo, if the dac did not matter I would be shocked. This is why I am mainly interested in the MP with its 32 bit dac. |
Alex, you say that none of the current dac manufacturers have a 32 bit dac. Does this mean there is a new manufacturer or that you are doubting that Nova Physics has a 32 bit dac? Why would a dac manufacturer make a dac with gain? |
Askat, what does "already been preceded by the VRS Revelation II" mean? There were VRS systems in the past that preceded the MP. Is that all you mean? |
Askat, I heard the VRS at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest two years ago. I had heard much earlier at the VSAC in Silverdale, WA. The more recent unit was far superior and Mr. Sanders seemed like a very nice guy with a very convenient product, but then he vanished. I am surprised to hear that he is still in business.
I must also say that I could make very little comment about the sound I heard coming from it at the RMAF as I knew none of the other components. |
Askat, I did not say that the first VRS system I heard was in 2003. Then I heard a new version, a much better version in 2005, what has taken so long? I don't mean to be argumentative here, and I would love to hear a comparison of the two.
How would you know if one of the MP people picked his brain before the MP came out when the VRS is not yet out either? |
Vince, since both players will be at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest, how about doing it there in a big enough room where many of us could hear? |
It would be great for those who could attend. How about the RMAF? |
Scaena1, thanks for cutting to the chase. I will be there for your demonstration. |
Kana813, I never said that other hard-drive systems could not equal or surpass the MP. I said that hard-drive systems do not all sound alike. I have heard some that I would not own, including my Mac G4 playing cds even in 44.1. Also the early VRS systems were quite poor.
Audioengr, I agree that the MP in the Behold suite at CES was not impressive, but the same system with the exception of the speakers at the RMAF was quite good.
Of course neither used the MP with its 32 bit dac. |
I have two friends whom I trust who have heard the MP and were shocked at how good it sounded. I know full well that many believe a computer hard drive and a dac or sound board can equal it as bits are bits. I know this is not the case, however, given personal experience. I have not heard the MP except in the Behold suite, so I am anxious to hear it in an analog system at the RMAF. I hope there will be an opportunity to compare it with some known cd player or other hard-drive system, such as the VRS. |
Vinlorjazz, this was the first prototype at the last VSAC in Washington. It sounded like a cheap cd player. I heard a newer version at the RMAF two years ago. Although I did not know any of the equipment being used, I thought the sound was good. I thought I would hear it at CES that January, but VRS was a no show. |
Yes it is. May I assume this is Vince? I very much look forward to hearing both your unit as well as the MP with its 32 bit dac.
Please don't take my comments about the earlier version as anything more than an example that all hard-drive based units don't sound alike. |
Is there any final resolution as to whether those at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest will get to hear the Memory Player and its 32 bit dac compared with the VRS unit? |
I agree with Tembrady about the Scaena room sound. At least I can say that the MP 32 bit unit exists. I heard the present VRS also, but both it and the MP were on systems that I did not know. Both sounded good, but both paled after I heard the Feastrex speakers on Sunday.
I also heard the new Accustic Arts Tube dac, the AMR, the Exemplar/Shanling CD-3000, and the Einstein prototype player. The MP alone whetted my appetite given what I heard. Maybe, however, it was a result of my prior expectations. |
Tedmbrady, yes in the Lotus room, but the electronics was not broken in until Sunday. It is a shame that none of the demonstrators can ever use equipment that is broken in. I just don't understand how anyone can be impressed with anything on the first or second days. Just when the shows are about to close, everything is beginning to sound right. |
If the shootout happened, it was not widely publicized. |
