" How dare you expect a person with a disability to simply change? Disability is not a choice. "
Behavior IS a choice. That’s why people are held accountable for it, unless they are insane.
" The onus is on you to accommodate [narcissists] ."
Your double standard for behavior only exists in your fantasy world.
Actually I think the onus is on me to make my fellow audiophiles aware of what sort of behavior they can expect from you. If our expectations are realistic, we are less likely to be caught off guard when you say or do something toxic.
For instance, I was not surprised to see you attempt "reversal", which is accusing me of the exact same behaviors you have displayed.
Nor am I surprised by your repeated attempts to bait me with allegations and accusations about my products and business. I would reply if I thought you were reasonable and asking in good faith. Experience has taught me otherwise.
And for the record, in case anyone reading this is unaware of my standing offer:
If anyone other than Kenjit is actually curious about the questions he raises, let me know and I will reply.
And if anyone has reservations about my choice to not engage with Kenjit on his terms (which I have done many times in the past with uniform results), please google "reasoning with a narcissist."
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I’ve requested that my post just above this one be removed; decided that I’d rather not perpetuate the squabble.
Edit: Thank you geoffkait for letting me know in your post just below that "delete" was still in effect after "edit" had timed out. I've now deleted it.
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Kenjit if you really want to keep this going, go start another thread. Maybe I will respond to your questions there. But I am through derailing this one, and apologize to bob540 for having done so.
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" NOBODY has done any comparisons to check if a $2 PVC pipe beats a $50k high end Wilson."
Nobody is claiming that either.
But somebody is committing a straw man argument fallacy.
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Kenjit wrote: "[Siegfried Linkwitz] obviously had a few designs that were available as DIY projects but i dont know of any that stereophile reviewed." Liinkwitz had several commercial designs which were manufactured by a company called Audio Artistry. One of them received Stereophile’s 1998 Loudspeaker of the Year award. Here’s the review: https://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/328/index.html
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" But the claim was that Linkwitz was a brilliant speaker designer. You would think his speakers would be well known and sought after. That just isnt the case. What makes him so brilliant if few audiophiles care about his speakers? "
The standard defense mechanism of the narcissist is contempt, which you display in most of your posts.
The defining characteristic of narcissism is grandiosity, or an unearned sense of superiority. You sir are in no position to express contempt towards Siegfried Linkwitz. You have no accomplishments.
Your posts say much more about you than about whoever or whatever you are posting about.
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" I suggest you stick to the topic of discussion rather than try to discredit me using an ad hominem accusation of narcissism." When you expressed contempt towards Siegfried Linkwitz, your behavior became "the topic of discussion." And once again you exhibit a classic symptom of narcissism; quoting from the article linked below: "People with narcissistic personality disorder... turn the blame onto others." https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm When you stop exhibiting narcissistic behavior, I will stop pointing it out. Deal? Duke |
" This is a speaker forum and i signed up to discuss speakers not peoples behavior or character. "
You have attacked the character of everyone on this forum in one way or another. You have said or insinuated that all audiophiles except for you are fools. You have accused me and my kind (speaker designers) of incompetence and dishonesty. You attacked Siegfried Linkwitz in this thread. You are the one who made it about people’s character.
" There is no such thing as narcissism. "
Amazing. Your defense is to deny that the behavior disorder you exhibit even exists. The voice inside of you which invented that defense is NOT your friend.
" Long live the champion! "
" Kenjit ~ Perfectionist bar none "
Way too easy to identify these as narcissism.
Kenjit, YOU are not your behavior disorder, so stop defending it. IT does not have YOUR best interest at heart.
"The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off." - Gloria Steinem
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Above, Kenjit is trying to bait me into defending my speaker. To anyone wondering why I don’t take up the challenge, let me point out that what Kenjit is doing is a classic behavior of a narcissist: Baiting people into defending themselves in an unwinnable argument.
Narcissists like to be on the offensive.
Kenjit’s technique for turning every discussion into an argument and then winning that argument is to be contemptuous and dismissive of the other person and whatever information or evidence they present. When only his statements are valid and only his evidence is admissible, the outcome of the argument is a foregone conclusion.
If anyone other than Kenjit is actually curious about the questions he raises, let me know and I will reply to you. Otherwise, imo this thread is about one of Siegfried Linkwitz’s designs, not one of mine.
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Kenjit: " hi glupson, Interesting how you ignored my questions. " I presume this is what you mean? " Dukes technique has been to try to discredit everything i say by accusing me of narcissism all the while ignoring the topic being discussed. Whats the name for that? There must be an illness that corresponds to no?" The name for what I am doing is, "calling out the narcissist". The illness that it corresponds to is, being sick of your behavior. Sounds like you want to make me the bad guy for calling you out. Interesting how you fail to even claim that your behavior is not narcissistic. Maybe I haven’t given you enough to work with? Here is a list of behaviors consistent with narcissistic personality disorder, taken from the Mayo Clinic website. Feel free to tell us which ones do not apply to you: Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance Have a sense of entitlement Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerate achievements and talents Preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, or brilliance Believe they are superior Monopolize conversations and belittle others Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious Insist on having the best of everything
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Avsjerry did not say that "we are all narcissists according to that list". But it sounds to me like you defacto acknowledge that you are: Instead of coming up with a single item which did not apply to you, you attacked the medical community.
And once again, your complaint against me is that I am calling you out instead of jumping through your hoops. Just because you ask a question does not entitle you to an answer.
Kenjit, WHAT you are - a narcissist - is WHY I no longer jump through your hoops. We both know you have already decided in advance to dismiss whatever I might say. We’ve been down that road too many times.
But let me repeat the offer I made yesterday:
If anyone other than Kenjit is actually curious about the questions he raises, let me know and I will reply to you. Otherwise, imo this thread is about one of Siegfried Linkwitz’s designs, not one of mine.
Kenjit, if your questions are so brilliant and so vitally important, why isn’t everyone clamoring in outrage for me to answer them?
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If anyone other than Kenjit is actually curious about the questions he raises, any of them, let me know and I will be more than happy to reply. I do not take offense at the questions themselves; I have simply stopped jumping through Kenjit’s hoops. As you can see, he doesn’t like that.
Also, this thread is about Siegfried Linkwitz's speakers, and for me to reply to Kenjit's questions in adequate depth would arguable be a thread hijack. I'll do it for someone else, but not for Kenjit because I do not think his questions are sincere. I do not think he is the slightest bit curious about my speakers or about me.
For anyone wondering why I have abandoned trying to reason with him, google "reasoning with a narcissist."
And Kenjit, thanks for the free publicity.
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" Can we now go back to discussing the topic of speakers? Promise, no more insults? "
Are you actually offering to change YOUR behavior, or only asking me to change mine? Please answer this question because it is important. However in this case a non-answer is still an answer.
I CAN promise you this:
As long as you take an adversarial approach and belittle or attack others, as far as I’m concerned your narcissistic behavior should be called out so that others are not duped. People have a right to know when they are dealing with someone whose behavior is toxic. And I will out you.
And if you stop, so will I.
I have seen you post in a non-adversarial way, so I know you can do it. Non-adversarial is my default mode, but in this thread I have chosen to give you a taste of your own medicine.
If you stop, then so will I.
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