What CD player/transport has the most stable mechanism?


I was wondering if someone out there could help me with this question. What CD player/transport has the most stable mechanism? By that I mean, what player/transport isolates the player from external bumps and vibration?
For years I have owned a SOTA sapphire turntable. Not that I've tried it, but you can drop a bowling bowl on it and not cause a skip. Is there a CD equivalent? No one talks about this, but for me, it's hugely important. I'm asking about vintage equipment, new stuff, cheap, expensive, whatever. BTW, I'm not asking about isolation equipment or racks or anything like that. Just the intrinsic stability of the player itself. Thanks in advance!
hgonzal
Probably Esoteric, their evolution of the legendary Teac VRDS cd drive. Here are some pictures for you to see just how robust they are:

http://http//www.6moons.com/audioreviews/esoteric18/transports.pdf
I agree with jond, probably the Esoteric line of players are most famous for their transport design.
http://www.cec-web.co.jp/products/cdplayer/tl0x/tl0x_e.html
I'll pile on too, Esoteric is the way to go.
why is it hugely important?

are you going to mount the thing in an off-road vehicle?

the real question is whether a unit can deal with mechanical shock electronically, mechanically or however so that SQ is not affected
Good question, I knew someone would ask.  It's because I like to dance when I listen to music, and when I do, the CD skips.  I also use my telescope from the roof, and you can see the every day vibration through the eyepiece.  Seems to me that isolation is something that isn't taken as seriously as it probably should be.  BTW, I live on a busy city street and you can feel it when a bus or truck drives by.

Thanks for the tip about the Esoteric line.  I was looking at that, but I hate dropping big coin on technology that's about to become obsolete.  Years ago I sold my Tandberg tape player for that very reason.  But hey, sometimes to have to pay to play.  I just wish, when you read reviews on digital equipment, they would talk more about this topic.  I find that it is largely ignored.  Thanks again!
I would assume a belt driven mechanism such as this from BMC or this from CEC would also deal with this issue?

But personally I'd invest in a Townshend Seismic platform and make the problem go away 
IMHO, i would look into some of the vintage Sony ES series from 1980 or around there. Build like tanks, most of these weight around 35,40 pounds , and the chassis is extremely well built. Plus, they sound pretty good and are fairly affordable.
Like I said, MHO.

hgonzal---The stability of a transport is one thing, it's ability to provide isolation from external bumps and vibration another. Though you're not asking for info on isolation equipment, that is exactly what will provide you with what you are looking for.

The best are the microscope platforms by Newport and MinusK, but they cost in excess of $2000. A "medium" priced alternative is what folkfreak recommended, the Seismic Platform by Townshend Audio of England, priced under $1000. Cheaper yet, and just as good, is a trio or quartet of Townshend Seismic Pods, individual footers that come in different weight ratings. Details are available on the Townshend website, as is a video discussing and demonstrating the effectiveness of the Seismic products.

If you're a DIYer, you can make an airbearing isolation platform by putting a very slightly inflated inner tube between two planks of wood, MDF, granite, whatever. If you then put a trio of roller bearings on top of that, and your CD transport/player on top of them, you will have very effective isolation down to 5Hz or so, at relatively low cost.

The old rubber isolators, Sorbothane and Navcom, provide isolation down to a not-very-low frequency, and their use results in rather soft, "spongy" bass. Isolation cones and spikes are also good down to the mid-teens or slightly lower---not low enough. Below that frequency they act as couplers, not isolators.

As @bdp24 mentions above, isolation could help you "get by" with a less expensive CDP.
Another alternative for the DIYer is a sandbox isolation platform.

http://www.cognitivevent.com/sandbox.html
Esoteric

I'm with rockanroller on this one.  The old Sony ES are hard to beat.  I'm using an X779 es for years and years. 
That you all for that information.  I'll look into it.  The only reason my original query did not include isolation materials was because I figure that a well-built player on an isolation platform would always outperform a jumpy player on the same platform.  But maybe I'm wrong about that, what with the possibility of mismatched resonant frequencies and such.

Just one more follow up question.  I noticed that the Esoteric line advertises a VRDS-NEO transport mechanism down to the K-05 player.  The K-07 player does not include it.  Should I not look at the K-07?  It's more in my wheelhouse price-wise, but this will probably be the last player I ever buy.  I don't want to be disappointed.  Thanks in advance.  I'll look into picking up an old SONY.
@hgonzal Bear in mind that other manufacturers such as DCS use Teac VRDS drives as well. For example there’s a Paganini just listed today that has the Teac VMK-5 drive. Teac have stopped selling drives to third parties unfortunately so there will be less of these in the future

also think about the DAC you are using this with as all these manufacturers have their own proprietary interfaces that will be superior to plan vanilla connections

Finally additional isolation will help no matter how good the drive.. many DCS and Esoteric users use Herzan platforms under their transports for example
Yeah, I noticed that part about proprietary interfaces.  I understand why they do that, but that's not going to work for me.  BTW, thank you for pointing out belt-drive systems.  I didn't know such a thing existed.  That is exactly why I started this thread, to find out about stuff like that.

I used to be really into this stuff, I remember when Stereophile was just a pamphlet, but I lost interest some time ago.  I listen to music every day, but I'm just not that interested in the gear anymore, at least not enough to keep track of the latest new thing.  It's funny, I think a lot of time people are more into the gear than the music, which is fine of course.  I've always had an interest in astronomy, but mostly it's because I love messing around with mirrors and the other optical components.  It's strangely addictive.


The one that doesn't have a drive at all! I've found that ripping my discs to my BSOUND Vault 2 and sending the data via an MIT Magnum Digital Coax to my amp has improved what I thought was already superb sound.  I had a Krell Cipher but the sound now is actually better...sounds like a mike feed from the studio!!
What CD player/transport has the most stable mechanism?

Teac Esoteric VRDS can't beat it supports the whole disc.

http://usr.audioasylum.com/images/0/1191/p03_vrds_neo.jpg

Cheers George
Hi dave-b.  I don't have any idea what you just wrote.  It's Greek to me.  BTW, I once worked with a Greek fellow and asked him what they said in that circumstance.  He said Greeks say that's Chinese to me.  I don't know why, but I always found that funny.
Thank you to everyone for their input.  I'm going to check out that Esoteric transport.
pioneer used a "stable platter system" on many models.
eg. pd65, pd75, pd95
the whole disc was supported, you put the disc in upside down, the laser read from the top.
they made zillions of them, so they are cheap and sound pretty good.
One more vote to Esoteric.
Pioneer Stable Platter Mechanism.   You place the CD onto the platter upside down.  In affect the CD spins on a platter the same size as the CD.
Bonjour from France,

Consider CEC players with their Wellfloat board:
http://www.cec-international.com/PAGES/s18.html
JL
Agree the Esoteric is unbeatable.  I have the K-01x and it is the 6th in a long line of hi-end CD and CD/SACD players I've owned and is head and shoulders above the rest - not only for its panzer-solid transport, but it has an incredible DAC that is so impressive and analog-like I doubt I'll spin another album.
Hgonzal, my point is that I have found using a device like the BlueSound Vault 2 feeding an amp via coax delivers superior performance to even the best spinners I have heard!  Now that may be Hungarian but it is certainly not Greek
I am new to Audiogon but have asked myself the same question as hgonzal. I have been looking at the ARC CD players using a Phillips Pro mechanism. I know they use this transport in commercial CD jukeboxes, so it must be pretty good. I have looked at the Esoteric and the Teac transport is very good as well.
Of all the spinners I tried over the last 15 years: Krell, McIntosh, Wadia, Linn, it is Naim CDX and CD3 that have the most transportation screws. Once released, and in CD3 its a full-time job to keep it level while removing them all, CD mech "floats" inside the box. You can tap, dance, bang your head against the wall (Naim is real good at making you do such things) but there is no skipping. Do not know about Naim "entry-level" players 
Musical Fidelity NuVista CD (new one)--a tank. And beautiful sound.
A memory player makes a drive mechanism, with all of its built in error correction... moot.
You can't go wrong with Esoteric K-03x at minimum or spring for the K-01X.