What can i do to make my tube preamp sound warmer?


Hi,

I have an Adcom GFA5802 300WATTS POWER AMP connected via $200 Vivanco Silver interconnects to a Line Stage Tube Preamplifier... The output sound from my 3 way Cerwin Wega Speakers is too bright and shrill.. As the volume is increased, the sound hurts the ears and makes me wanna switch it off .. I dont know adams about tubes, and it will help greatly if someone could let me know what changes in the tubes will make the overall sound more smooth, balanced and warm..

Preamp Tube Specs

Power Supply : 5Y3 ; Line-Stage Tubes : 12AX7A x 3
royston_david
By all means, ditch the interconnect. Silver is often bright and lean. If a copper interconnect doesn't do the trick, you might want to talk to Kevin Deal about different tube options for your preamp. But I'd start with the interconnect.
Doesn't matter what kind of tubes or interconnects you try. You need to replace those Cerwin Vega speakers.
Please don't take offence, I hate when people say bad things about other people gear. I had a pair of those speakers for a while, hooked up to decent gear, and they never did sound acceptable to me. At the time I was partying a lot at home, and I liked the fact that they played real LOUD. If you want more refined sound think of a speaker change. There are many bargins out there.
I have to disagree with the others about silver interconnects. While copper may sound better in your system, silver is not typically bright and lean sounding. I think when people first started expeimenting with silver cables this may have been the case, but with years of research and trials, silver cables being manufactured by many companies are now equally as smooth as copper.

On the other hand, I have to agree that your speakers are probably the culprit in your system.
I tend to agree with Elgordo and the others that the speakers are likely what is causing your problems (it could also be room acoustics), and no tube change or interconnect change is going to remedy the shrillness you hear. If you can borrow a different set of speakers to try in your room, that might be helpful for you to see if the CVs are the problem.
Changing your 12ax7A's to warmer ones may help-what do you have now? I would say that amperex tend to be a little warm for me may just take the bite out of them?
I agree that silver interconnects don't neccesarily sound bright and shrill, blanket statements like that serve no purpose.
Hello,
I have gone through many interconnects and have learned that a good balance of silver and non-silver is the way to go. SilverAudio makes a great line of cables but I found my system fully loaded with these was indeed too forward and analytical ... particularly on the top. A couple of Cardas Golden Cross to/from the line stage helped a lot. Too much of the CGC and the system lost detail and too much of a good thing in the mids. It truly paid off to try diff cables at each link in the system and weigh the pros/cons of each to get a well balanced result.
But I would suspect that auditioning other speakers might be a more viable solution than fussing with cable at the moment.
John
The line stage preamp has some type of coupling caps.
AudioNote oil in paper caps will warm things up.
Dear All,

Thank your very much for your honest and satisfying answers.. Infact most of your suggestions proved a valid point, that i had suspected in the first place with the 300 Watt Cerwin Wega's Spkr and the silver interconnects..
Both are too bright to be on the same side ... I will start with replacing the interconnects first and then the cerwins.