What are the best speakers in the world?


This is the most important question on our minds. This is what it all boils down to. What is the best speaker on the planet?

I dont want to hear any excuses or a dozen different opinions. I just want the facts. 

A speaker is just like a car. It has a purpose. The purpose of a car is to get you from A to B. But we are here to discuss speakers so what is the job of a speaker exactly and why are there so many to choose from?

The purpose of a speaker is to play music so that we can sit down and enjoy it. Simple as that. No resonance, no coldness no harshness no lack of bass, no booming, no nonsense, just pure buttery heaven. 

Is it the magico? is it the harbeth? is it the wilson? Avalon? Yg? vivid? 
DIY custom tuned? brick walled cabinets made of 12 inch thick concrete? 

Are we simply being cheated with all these offerings? why are there so many?

Again, i dont want to hear differences of opinions or any extraneous comments. 

I will ask again, what is the best speaker in the world?

I am sick and tired of seeing different speakers being touted as the best. I am sick of the lies. Sick of being cheated. Sick of lack of measurements. Sick of watching other audiophiles being duped. Sick of audiophiles that are tone deaf. 

We need the facts. No more lies no more BS no more opinions. 

What is the best? 
kenjit
kenjit
What is the best speaker on the planet? I dont want to hear any excuses or a dozen different opinions. I just want the facts ... i dont want to hear differences of opinions ... We need the facts. No more lies no more BS no more opinions.
The answer to your question is subjective by nature, so there's no way to respond to it without expressing an opinion.

 
Another crazy Kenjit thread....with impossible to answer questions since kenjit sets them up to never be satisfied with any answer.  

ok...

My speakers do all that you described.  
So I guess they are the best in the world.

I dont want to hear any excuses or a dozen different opinions. I just want the facts.


I just gave you facts.

You are welcome.

The answer to your question is subjective by nature, so there's no way to respond to it without expressing an opinion.
Measurements are not dependent on what audiophiles think or feel are they? Asserting that its all subjective is what prevents us finding the answer to this question. 
There is no such thing as everyone has a favorite.
@kenjit 

Why ask these repeated questions and make these repeated pronouncements when you've already told everyone that speakers must be customed tuned to each person's ears; and you or someone you know is working on dyi customed tuned speakers for you? Would seem that once your customed tuned speakers are complete that you'll have all they you ever desired.

kenjit
Asserting that its all subjective is what prevents us finding the answer to this question.
I've never, ever said "all is subjective." Ever. I did say that the answer to "What are the best speakers?" is subjective by nature. There is no single "best."
Radio Shack Optimus speakers with 15" woofers, custom tuned by drilling holes in the back with both 1/4" and 1/2" drill bits. Not only did it custom tune the speakers to my listening preference, but as an added bonus it also prevents the dreaded "woofer back pressure build up" from the air not being able to escape freely through the back of the cabinet.

Let’s just say it, "win, win".

I would just like to thank kenjit, I have learned as much from him as the deacon of directionality, the prince of pebbles, the squire of springs.
Another silly attack on the speaker industry. Just like a mouse on a wheel, goes nowhere and is getting quite boring.
Bose, hands down. For some folks. And that really is all that matters. What is “best” for the user. 
To paraphrase Douglas Adams, this question can be answered, but it will take some time.

First of all there are an awful lot of measurements to be taken into account.

An awful lot, just for starters - bandwidth, linearity, dispersion, distortion, frequency response, colouration, timing, room interaction etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker_measurement

Then there are the necessary adjustments to be taken into account because of the nonlinearity of human hearing.
https://physicsworld.com/a/human-hearing-is-highly-nonlinear/

Like many others, I also like to believe that my speakers (Tannoy DCs) are the best I have ever heard and therefore the best available. However, in all honestly all I know for certain is that no loudspeaker I ever heard could ever fool me into forgetting that I’m listening to a reproduction of a recording. A second rate facsimile of the real thing.

None of them were like the real thing. Or even close to it.

Not even surround sound headphones which could do the spatial thing really well. So well that you couldn’t help but turn your head to follow the sound.

However, our wait for the answer may not be as long as we fear. Not if AI continues it’s already astonishing advance.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/ai-china-baidu-a...



@jetter 

hi jetter,

About a year ago i see that you posted on here asking for advice on cables. Here is part of what you wrote 

There is little about the tone or clarity of these cables I do not like

You are one of those audiophiles that thinks cables make a difference. They do not. This is imaginary. 
That immediately disqualifies you from this discussion. 

I do not care about cables. If i swapped your expensive cables while you werent looking, you just wouldn't hear any difference.
However, its highly likely that you have spent almost no effort on the room youve put your speakers in. Again, this is a typical mistake. 

The fact of the matter is you chose this hobby because you want the best sound in the world. That is by definition what its all about. 
If you are not able to entertain the question of what is the best speaker in the world, then you cant possibly be an audiophile, and your comments have no credibility.
cd318
However, in all honestly all I know for certain is that no loudspeaker I ever heard could ever fool me into forgetting that I’m listening to a reproduction of a recording. A second rate facsimile of the real thing.
Isn’t that the truth. Nowadays I only get to a couple of performances a year, all in small venues such as the Paramount in Rutland or the Woodstock Town Hall Theater, both in Vermont. Last saw/heard performances by Postmodern Jukebox and Marcia Ball (and Sonny Landreth). First thing, first song, first note I think to compare the realism of the sound to my rig. One second later, I realize there is no way to compare the two and I have fortunately learned to not try.

If you have achieved concert level performance from your equipment good for you!
Your question is like asking what is the best micro-brew in the world! 
Or how long is a piece of string....
First of all there are an awful lot of measurements to be taken into account.
poppycock. Ive seen and read dozens of john atkinsons reviews and there never has been any indication that the best speakers have better measurements. They all measure differently and thats about all you can say. 
"You are one of those audiophiles that thinks cables make a difference. They do not. This is imaginary.
That immediately disqualifies you from this discussion."
Now that sir, is just a jack ass statement. Makes me wonder who here is actually tone deaf.

Your question is like asking what is the best micro-brew in the world!
you are wrong about that. A speaker has a purpose. micro brew has no purpose. It can taste like whatever you like. 

A speaker needs to meet certain specifications. It should do 20 to 20khz perfectly. It should not rattle. It should not be cold. It should not add cabinet coloration. It should have perfect imaging. etc Nothing like microbrew. 
Now that sir, is just a jack ass statement. Makes me wonder who here is actually tone deaf.
The cable audibility issue has been going on for decades. Its the biggest hoax in the audiophile community. 

While not wanting to take his bait, since he brought up the car analogy, I'll ask him: "What's the best car?"

Now, can we just ignore his unanswerable questions, and see if he goes away?

The only question to be answered by this thread is who is the most relentless troll on Audiogon.
I'll ask him: "What's the best car?"
dont know anything about cars. 

Magazines do speaker reviews all the time. Are you telling me all speakers are the same? Youd have to be deaf to think that. So what is the best? 
These "bestest" threads are the best!
Best is a subjective concept like pretty, good, warm , happy. If you want measurements then there could be which speaker hits closest to a certain idealized point of measurements. As far as best goes there will never be a best that will be agreed upon. What is the best knitting needle, race horse, house design, automobile, refrigerator, baseball player...
"The cable audibility issue has been going on for decades. Its the biggest hoax in the audiophile community"
Well, I guess what you can't hear, won't hurt you. 
The OP and this topic are why the internet invented funny animated gifs like Stanley from the office rolling his eyes. This forum needs animated gifs. Also, if you could all stop playing into this, it would help. There are other forums without this. 

Q: What's the best car?"

His response: "don't know anything about cars"

Incorrect! The correct answer is, there is no such thing as "the best car."

You didn't even get the point of the question, did you? How embarrassing.

The goal is to have the most witty comment. 

We don't have a winner yet.

Imagine the dinner table conversations with the OP?

If money is no object here's my top 3 : Borresen 05, Bayz Audio Counterpoint 2.0, Alsyvox Michelangelo.
I've discovered the best speakers I've ever heard.

I do not know if they are the best speakers in the world but there are others with more credibility than I who agree with my experiences with these speakers.  It's not important whether they are the best speakers in the world to anyone else but myself.  I'm the one who listens to them.  I'm the one with goosebumps and euphoria.  I'm the one who did the research.  I'm the one who spent my hard-earned dollars on them.  I'm the one who carried them into my listening room, carefully set them up, broke them in, and evaluated them based on my own ears and listening experience.  

I will never be able to hear all of the speakers of the world, and it's likely that no one here will ever be able to either.  If it was my desire to do so I could do it, but I think I'd spend more time and money chasing an illusion, and would never have the time to enjoy what I have. 

I will always remain curious about how other speakers than what I own sound like.  Maybe I'll audition Magico's, Wilson's, or Magnepan's if I have the time or the desire.  It's possible that if I do, I'll hear something I'm not hearing in the speakers I own and love right now.  It's not really important though, because I'm REALLY HAPPY with the ones I have. 

Desire is the source of human suffering.  
dont know anything about cars.
You don't know much about speakers either.
Kenjit guess you answered your own question. In another thread you said. 

"kef ls50 are award winning state of the art. The best in the world. "

Seems the mystery is solved. Ha
Whatever speakers make me believe I'm in the Great Hall of the Musikverein, listening to the Vienna Philharmonic.
Oh wait, I have my answer. It's the JBL D-140, the woofer used in the Fender Dual Showman, the amp a lot of my favorite bassists plugged their Fender Precision or Jazz bass into in the studio. 
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DeKay
Those "in the know" simply drive to their nearest Best Buy,and wait for the white van to pull up. No need internet forum nonsense.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=Awr9D25k0wheg1EAr2O5mWRH;_ylu=X3oDMTBzcmQxMWhmBHNlYwN...


dekay
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Tooby ooby walla, nooby abba naba...
I don’t know what’s worse: that @dekay posted this, or that I instantly understood the song reference.
" I am sick and tired of seeing different speakers being touted as the best. I am sick of the lies. Sick of being cheated. Sick of lack of measurements. Sick of watching other audiophiles being duped. Sick of audiophiles that are tone deaf."

I think we are all sick of you .... 🚫

Again, i dont want to hear differences of opinions or any extraneous comments.


And that sentence alone explains everything we need to know about the OP.

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Your question is pointless. A speaker has two cabinets -- one behind the drivers (the speaker itself) and the other in front of the drivers (the listening room). Since changing the dimensions of either one will affect the sound, the best speaker in the world cannot exist as no two listening rooms are exactly the same. The speaker cabinets will be consistent, but not the rooms.


@thieliste 

what makes them the best? what makes them better than the B&W nautilus?
The best speaker in the world is the next one that haven't hit the market yet!  Some will say no speaker has been an improvement over the 57 Quads.
Guys you are fighting an unending battle. Just sit back and listen to the music and enjoy your favorite microbrew. Job trying to bash each other over a subject  which is undefinable. The worlds best speaker is the one you can afford and enjoy. Finished!








gs5556
"
A speaker has two cabinets -- one behind the drivers (the speaker itself) and the other in front of the drivers (the listening room)."

 Listening room is not a cabinet that is silly! A cabinet should be sonically neutral as we all know but a listening room can not be neutral unless you are in a anechoic chamber and no one wants that.
what are the best speakers in the world?

Kii audio? Dutch and dutch? Wilson? 

Surprising that nobody has even mentioned these yet. Maybe I am asking the wrong crowd. 


Some will say no speaker has been an improvement over the 57 Quads
Quads arent remotely the best. Horrific looking things they are. And outdated. 
Here you go, the best, now go away.
It's almost 9:00pm, isn't it past your bedtime? It is a school day tomorrow....

https://youtu.be/CKIye4RZ-5k
@kenjit no one mentioned them because no one took your question seriously. 
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It’s obviously the one owned by Marty McFly. If you haven’t heard it person then any opinion noted will be invalid and or dismissed.