What 50wpc or higher amps have a totally different sound from Pass Labs, in a good way?

I know Pass is amazing, but there’s got to be more than one way to skin the audio cat with magical results, right?  No yin yang here, for real?

Got to say, ayre gear is sounding very intriguing. Where in their line is the sweet spot for preamp, power amp?

Also, I've been digging the octave v110 as a contrast to the pass. Fuller more authoritative sound. Bypassing it's preamp section with me EAR 868 is sounding really good. Still have some tube rolling to do, but it's an intersting yang to pass yin so far. 

Would love to hear CJ Art line, Ayre, Atmasphere. Clearly high end, unique designs. 

@jasonbourne - cool suggestion. Will check it out. 

@decooney its hard to say what I would rather hear from an amp that would be different from the xa30.8.  Mostly curious about very different sonic profiles that are well-enjoyed.  I really haven’t tried much, so curious where a thread like this leads.

Ayre, Luxman are intriguing, for sure. I’d probably not like the brighter solid state stuff, personally. Maybe fuller, weightier, denser?

I just picked up an octave v110 kt120/kt88/el34 integrated to try out that flavor. So far, it’s different... still good... still warming up, going to tube roll a bit.

The pass is just a great amp.  But there must be unique magical Sonics elsewhere too.

Well one of his first posts mentioned the octave v110 very highly and it stuck out for me because I'd had a brief but interesting dalliance with a smaller one last year. I'll put in the time and go deeper into it. 

@tomcy6 ive perused that thread... will look deeper...

@wolfie - how do you think the thresholds differ sonically from the pass gear?

After going from Pass XA30.8 to Octave v110 (KT120 P-P 100wpc) and back to Pass, I think that nice PP tube amps are a different and enjoyable beast. Much fuller sound, denser soundstage, more immersive on the Octave. VERY detail-oriented, precise, more sparse soundstage with the Pass. I ultimately enjoyed listening to the Octave more than the Pass, but both are extremely good at what they do.

I had to return the Octave due to a tube biasing issue, but I went for an alternative PP tube amp that seemed like a cool value proposition: Wavestream Kinetics Boxter (6550/KT88 100wpc) from The Music Room. No information about it anywhere, but designer is Scott Frankland (of MFA, Wells Audio fame).

@rh67 - would love to hear an LTA amp in my system.

@jg2077 - will do.