Want something more forgiving than Vandy 3a sigs


I think Mike Fremer's comment about the Vandersteen Quatros, in his Stereophile review, applies to the Vandersteen 3a sigs: "...treble performance may strike some as being too honest...". I'm one of those "some." We all know that a lot of source material out there suffers from some degree of treble emphasis. I listen to a wide range of classical and jazz recordings, and, even after a fair degree of experimentation with cables, pre-amps, and amps, I've been unable to come up with a combination that is sufficiently "forgiving" to allow me to listen, easily and comfortably, to as much of the source material that I want to hear on my Vandys. In particular, I'm often disappointed with orchestral string sound...and indeed, have figured out, with this experience, that massed strings are quite difficult to record well. My system starts with a Linn CD12. I've tried PSE, GNSC-modified ARC LS-15, Cary SLP2002, and am working with a Cary SLP98 now on the pre-amp side; and have tried a VTL ST150, a BEL1001, and an ARC VT100 MKIII on the amp side. I've used various Audioquest, Kimber, BEL, and Purist Audio cable, and am happiest with Cardas Cross and Golden Cross (to which I was led by things I read on this Forum). All of that is good gear, some of it more top-focused than others. None of it has been able to give me as consistently as warm and "lush" a listening experience as I think I ought to be able to find, and this is especially true with orchestral music. Probably not surprisingly, the Cary 2002 combined with the ARC VT-100 has leaned closest to the right direction. (Let me hasten to add, though, that a really well-recorded chamber music or jazz CD will often sound terrific with most of this equipment and the Vandys.) (I should also add that I came to the 3a sigs from the 2ce sigs, which I also felt were capable of being a bit unforgiving, frankly.)

Within Texas, where I live (and where I would prefer to buy), I've figured out that some options include Sonus Faber Cremonas, Audio Physic Scorpios, Wilson Benesh Circles (I think) and not much else (of which I am aware)that will fit into the room without creating domestic discomfort. (My wife thinks the Vandy's are too big as it is.)

Any ideas out there about the speakers mentioned, other speakers, or possibly electronics?
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I think Sonus Faber might be a good direction, the Scorpio was a huge upset, I made a special trip to NYC to hear them and was not impressed, to me I heard the cabinet and they sounded stressed,might not have been broken in or any number of other issues. My dad just bought the Quatro Wood and is running ARC pre and Audioquest Niagra and Mont Blac cables, I hope when they come his experience does not mirror yours as he listens only to Classical, Opera and New Age..he is also a trained Organist, he replaced his Legacy Focus 20/20 because of brightness and somewhat sloppy bass, good speaker that served him well but it was high time to move on. You have some awesome gear. Good luck in your search.
I suspect you're in for disappointment if you feel the Vandersteens are not "forgiving". I've never heard them described in this manner. If anything, they are considered veiled.
Audio Physic sounds right for you. I had a pair of Proac 3.8's that were very forgiving.
I've auditioned Sonus Faber and Audio Physic speakers side by side. I think AP has a more revealing sound and SF a more lush sound, slightly colored on the warm side imho. I ended up getting AP Virgo IIs, because it just sounded right to my ears. But you may actually prefer the SF speakers based on your description of the sound you're trying to achieve.

My response to the harsh treble of cds is to listen mainly to LPs. The treble range, like the high notes of a violin, usually sound much better on an analogue recording.
I would also suggest ProAc's for lovely highs without harshness, esp when running with tubes as you are doing. The floorstanding models are quite slim and simple with beautiful wood finishes. The 3.8's (newest iteration of these is the D38) are a little wider than those below it in the line but to my ears they all sound wonderful, even the little Tablette Reference monitors which are only 7" wide. Here's a ad for a beautiful pair of 3.8's in California:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1177560371