Vinyl Cleaning Fluid for VPI RCM


I have a VPI HW 17. I had been using Torumat fluid. I had 2 gallons I bought a few years ago and just recently ran out. It seems they must be out of business because I can not find it anywhere. If you know a source, can you let me know? If its not available, can you give me recommendations on a commercial cleaner that you like with the VPI or other machines(I don't want to mix my own concoction). Thanks for any input.

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BROOKS BERDAN (http://www.brooksberdanltd.com/) IN CALIFORNIA BOUGHT THE TORUMAT FORMULA AND WILL BE SELLING HOPEFULLY BY NEXT YEAR. I WON'T TOUCH ANYTHING WITH ALCOHOL IN IT. THE TORUMAT IS THE BEST. THE RRL IS HORRIBLE. IT KILLED ALL THE HIGHS AND MADE THE VINYL SOUND DULL.I RESEARCHED THE INGREDIENTS AND ONE OF THEM IS ALSO FOUND IN WOMEN'S HAND LOTION.I TRIED THE VINYL-ZYME AND IT ALSO MUFFLED THE SONIC QUALITY OF THE RECORD. THE TORUMAT HAS NO ALCOHOL AND IT LUBRICATES THE VINYL AND MAKES IT ANTI STATIC WHILE CLEANING IT.IT HAS NO SONIC SIGNATURE.
Nope, not a customer of Brooks. Acoustic Image. I don't think it is system dependent. I cleaned a couple of records with the RRL and all the air and upper extension sounded dull and muffled. I returned it to Elliot at Acoustic Image and told him my experinece. A couple of months later he told me that he too noticed the same thing. Anyway, that's my experience.
Sorry about the CAPS. I am too lazy to to mess with the shift key. Here is your proof of evidence.I will give you my address where you can send me your system.

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=chem&id=2623

Maybe I could use the RRL on my face after shaving.I did not like it on my records. J.K.
4yanx, I stated "I RESEARCHED THE INGREDIENTS AND ONE OF THEM IS ALSO FOUND IN WOMEN'S HAND LOTION." You said"As to the claim of “hand lotion ingredients”, I think you should provide some solid proof in evidence. “I researched it” proves nothing to me."I’d be nearly willing to wager my system that “hand lotion ingredients” are not part of the formula."

Well I proved it.Here is the quote from RRL website-"Trisodium EDTA is added to the surfactant as a preservative." So I would say that you have the egg on your face and when will you be shipping me your system.

http://www.musicalsurroundings.com/rrl.html
As you can see in my first post. I said that I heard a negative sonic difference using the RRL.I also mentioned that it contained a chemical that is found in hand lotion. I did not not say if that is right or wrong or a good or bad thing.I just thought that it was interesting.4yanx, challenged my statement as false and I backed up the fact that it contains that chemical.It comes down to this-the RRL did'nt work for me. The Torumat did. End of story.I am not trying to build a market for the Torumat and I did not "trash" the competion.I just stated two things-my experience with the RRL and a fact about one of the ingredients.You can take it anyway you want it.