Vintage vs New


My children growing older and leaving home has allowed me to get back into our common interest. I find myself wanting a new pair of speakers and I’m torn between some vintage models that interested me in easier times, but were not obtainable due to budgetary limitations, and current models with their state of the art drivers.  Case in point: B&W 801 Matrix Anniversary vs. anything in the 702/703.
I would like to hear people’s thoughts.  
mjjw

Showing 3 responses by oldhvymec

I've had a lot of vintage speakers. When they were new or close to new.

I've owned B&W 802-6, Dunlavy Audio SCVI, Infinity RS series (ALL but Beta V), and VMPS. I still covet TWO VMPS speakers. WRRM, RM50s.

I own the RMx Elixirs, & RM30. RM40s RM2 & 626Rs and a few more will STILL blow your mind. 

Now that I've said my piece. I'd take the 801 MA over the 7 series any day.. BUT I'm not a big fan of either.

A youngster down the block is a BIG time fan of B&W. 800 3D pretty impressive. He won't tell me what he paid for them delivered, & set up, but he loves them.. VTL power amps.. He just got a 5k bill for those from Bea. Retube and checkup.. He sure told me about that.. He was smokin'.. LOL poor rich kid..

Now he want's new cables.. OK.. I said what about the room? I got that dear in the headlight stare.. KIDS!!

BTW he has had every B&W speaker ever made twice over. The whole family uses them..

Regards
Tektons sound like my toilet smells. Just MHO.

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I’ve never heard ONE single Tekton. BUT you have a horrible "honest opinion". If you can’t pick a design from the many that are made by Tekton, YOU have some very discriminating and limited abilities to make things work.

Way to many have been sold and the orders keep mounting. Would I change things if I used them? LOL Oh mercy, I recon so..

I like domes and I LOVE a good ribbon or small planar. I don’t like BASS in monitors. I don’t care WHO makes it.. BUT that is the OLD way of doing things.. Mids/Highs and ANY bass don’t mix.

One there is way to much vibration.

Second no way to TIME align the two different types of signals in the SAME BOX. Then add a room with a top and bottom..

Surely you jest.

And Tektons smell? There are FEW speaker manufactures that don’t in my book. BUT then what do I know.. I’m happy, right after me everyone else is next.. I don’t think I’d buy new speakers unless it was parts and drivers to build new cabinets or something..

I’d buy them if I was a speaker buying mode. BUT I like planars and ribbons.

Strathearns.. The best I’ve ever heard.. I can hear Carlos right now... Still quit a few around too.. Just so coveted by REAL speaker enthusiast.. LOL so are Neo 8 Monsoons. They last forever if they are taken care of and have the updated screws/nuts added in the older ones..

Strathearns you can still get parts too..

Infinity IRS Betas were wonderful with a little work.. Serious speakers fella. 4 servo bass columns sure made a difference too.. NOTHING better..

I saw the reference to Mac 240s and VOTT. LOUD comes to mind.. I had a few combos with Jensen Imperial Subs too. 3 speakers were 3 pickup loads. OFF to the school dance we would go.. MC240 and a Mac30 Kit..
I bought them from the Local Masonic Lodge when they did an upgrade.. I was 17 or 18.
Whole inside auditorium had LOUD Boom Boom..

Do they even have school dances any more? I wonder..

Happy happy..


tomic601
8,396 posts07-05-2021 4:15pmwell….a properly upgraded (Mike Samra )and maintained MC240 with the right tubes ( Andy at VTS ) is probably as far as ya can get a transformer tube amp. The MC240 xformer one of the best ever.

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I looked at your page. I could see the Samra’s PS upgrade in your 240..
He sure could get a 240 to sing.. You should hear the way he does up a C20 NOW.. He did up the phono stage like I’ve NEVER heard on a Mac..
I added Super Hexfreds and Vishay copper resistors.. after he did his magic..

I have to many irons in the fire and ZERO energy to get er done.. :-(

I have a C11 (Samra) I’ve never pulled out of the box. I have new glass for it to boot.. Fixed a Bass pot too.

REMOTES.. that is my problem.. a darn remote.. I use a Parasound Zpre3 in the tape loop on the Mac valve preamps... Very nice.. and adds a little DAC with sub out and remote sub volume control.. Nifty little preamp and a C20 to boot.. I LOVE IT.. You should hear what a C20 (S) does to ANY class d.. It’s like magic.. MX110z for that matter..

Have you tinkered with any of the class ds, Electro-stats and that MX110z. I bet it would blow your mind too..
Nothing like a planar designs and Ribbons.. I keep looking at Sound Labs and Apogee :-). Before I kick.. LOL