Large Advents! A true classic from Henry Kloss.
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As a direct reply to your OP,
- without knowing what you are driving them with, and
- without knowing your fave genre of music.....
.ADVENTS over the WHARFEDALES,
Without prejudice to the above; as an all- around performer in general, neither one would be my top choice in the “vintage” speaker contenders and pretenders.
EBM, this potential purchase is solely to complete a vintage system that is more a visual than one I will be listening to consistently. That said I want the best sound possible from these oldsters so that's why I'm asking. AKG, Yamaha CA810 integrated, Yamaha TC 520 cassette deck, Yamaha CT 810 tuner and a Yamaha disc changer CD player. This would all be moot if I hadn't made one of the biggest audio related blunders of my life some years back. Too painful to mention right now...
Many of the Vintage "L" line of JBL like L19, L26, L40, L50 are all good. The Celestion Ditton 33, 44, even 66 are around at that price sometimes. Recapping these provides huge gains and is easy to do. IMF TLS 50's are very good too but should also recap.
Obviously many more but there is a few in the price range :I am sure you would enjoy.
Not to derail the thread but I can't resist a comment. I haven't heard a new $400 speaker that is close to these "Ancient history" speakers.
You are kidding, right? Both are horrible speakers, but to each his or her own. Get whichever one sounds "good" to you, I guess.
Want some decent vintage box speakers?
Try Fulton 80 or 100 for less money and actually some semblance of accuracy of reproduced sound.
Vintage decent speakers? ANY Magnepan that is still working.
I've always had a certain fondness for Large Advents - had a pair most of the way through college, and later added a second pair. Great sound with the infamous stacked setup, to be sure.
But much as I liked them, the Advents eventually made way for a pair of Infinity 2000A's. These had 12" woofers, about 6" midranges, and four rectangular RTR electrostatic tweeter panels mounted at varying angles in an area open to the front and rear... one of the earlier 'direct/reflecting' designs. The 12" woofer delivered very solid bass (no sub needed), but the electrostats were the 'secret sauce' for a very smooth upper range all the way to at least 20k. I still remember them fondly as one of my all-time favorite speakers. The 2000A was kind of a 'cult classic' - one of the true 'sleepers' of the era for the price. I bought mine very slightly used for about $250, and they literally blew away speakers selling for many times that amount.
Unfortunately, one of mine was stolen out of the moving van during a relocation, so today I have only one half of the pair (why would anyone steal just ONE speaker?) I'd love to grab another pair someday (there's a pair in very nice shape currently offered on eBay for $799), just to see if they still impress me as much as they did back in the early '70s.
Hi all and thanks for all the responses. I ended up buying The Advents. They are in wonderful shape both functionally and cosmetically. Sound great with my Yamaha CA 810. The seller actually had four and I ended up going for all of them when I read
about how stacking this speaker was so popular, So I have a new question. Most people seemed to physically stack them on top of one another but how about placing them side by side? Which is better? I will test myself but have no stands at hand to get the best comparison. Thanks.
The Dahlquist DQ 10’s were excellent speakers. TAS says it’s one of the 10 most influential speakers of all time. Worked in a Hifi shop in College.. Had all of the JBL 100’s I could stomach. Thought the ESS were interesting, but didn’t think I’d want to live with them. IMHO Maggie’s or DQ 10’s would be my choice.
I am not sure if this will qualify, but I have in my second listening room in my house, the original Legacy "Classic". I think the company was originally called Reel to Real before Bill Dudleston changed the name to Legacy Audio years later. I ordered them from an ad in the last page of an audio magazine and I had them shipped to my first home in California for $1,600 in 1985. I have replaced the leaf tweeters for ribbons since they blew out. Kind of cool that a speaker can last that long and still sound great after all these years.
I picked up a pair of John Bowers Active 1 back in the 1980's for $1100
200 watts for the drivers and 100 watts for tweeter per speaker.
As time went on I needed and found spare parts on the internet to keep them playing well.
Playing them with a Classe 5 Pre-amp and Cal Audio MK11 HDCD CD Player. Sounds terrific.
For that money, look for a pair of the late 70’s KEF Calinda or Cantata loudspeakers. As we used to say about the Large Advent, they have that "hole-in-the-middle". It wasn’t a great speaker when it was new and certainly hasn’t gotten better over time. It’s claim to fame was that with a very big power amp, you’d get a deep low end and the mid-range wasn’t offensive. Of course the mid-range lacked detail and clarity as well, hence the "hole-in-the-middle" comment.
One of the great features of these loudspeakers is that they are extremely revealing of the sonic qualities of your power amp. Match one of them with a good tube power amp and you'll have true magic.
That vintage of KEF loudspeaker is right in the price range of what you’re looking to spend. Go to:
I did stack them as suggested with the top one upside down. I'm very satisfied for how old they and my Yamaha Integrated Amp are. My vintage Yamaha table is sounding good too. I'm using thin and old Monster Cable with bare wire on both ends. Was wondering if some better cable with pins on the amp and spades on the speaker end would be worth doing? Any suggestions would be appreciated.