Vintage DD turntables. Are we living dangerously?


I have just acquired a 32 year old JVC/Victor TT-101 DD turntable after having its lesser brother, the TT-81 for the last year.
TT-101
This is one of the great DD designs made at a time when the giant Japanese electronics companies like Technics, Denon, JVC/Victor and Pioneer could pour millions of dollars into 'flagship' models to 'enhance' their lower range models which often sold in the millions.
Because of their complexity however.......if they malfunction.....parts are 'unobtanium'....and they often cannot be repaired.
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Dear @lewm  : "   but the notion of drilling an LP as he described it seems dubious at best. "

dubious? when you never had on hand the original one and where you never experienced it. How dare you to post that so secure statement?

You are totally wrong because that tiny hole is for what I posted.

Anyway, I don't care any more because I don't own any SS-300.

R.
@bimasta

 RAUL disagrees with you, Chak —"That tiny hole at the inner position in the SS300 is not to fix it to the spindle. SAEC makes a research about and they found out that the LP/records tend to slide through a metal mat surface so its advice is that with a small nail use that hole to fix the LP to the mat and for this you have to make a tiny hole on each LP at exactly the metal mat hole position then and before play you insert the tiny nail in the LP through the metal mat hole. In this way the mat and LP spins at unison/evenly."

Neither seems worth the bother to me, or even the few seconds to think about it. And note it could be done with any other mat regardless of the material, and no one ever bothered.

Hmm, interesting. I have 6 page manual with my NOS NIB SAEC mat, the manual is in Japanese of course, but there are some pictures.  

I will translate from Japanese to make sure about it. 

Making a hole in the record label is indeed a strange idea, because to fix the pad from the top of the record it must goes through the record to reach a treated hole in the mat. 

Fixing the mat to the spindle hole with that thin metal "bridge" under the record surface is what i expected. But maybe i'm wrong, anyway it would be nice to find the answer. It is crazy if SAEC suggested us to drill the records :)) I think a heavy record weight on top could solve the issue, but SEC never made any record weights, just a mat. 

I will post some pictures later. 



"I will never puncture my precious golden age vinyls or expensive MoFi prints for such bullshit..." Best-groove

Drilling holes in a record label meant it was "remaindered" — it didn’t sell, no one wants it — and it went straight into the $1 bin.

I use the SAEC mat, and have many LPs worth $1000 and up. I won’t make their value plummet to $1.
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And Raul adds a gem:

@lewm : "but the notion of drilling an LP ... seems dubious at best."

"Dubious? When you never had on hand the original one and you never experienced it? How dare you to post that so secure statement?

"You are totally wrong because that tiny hole is for what I posted!"

Audiogon offers the most learned and insightful info I can find online, and I do check other sites. The great info here is often surrounded by intense debate, but it’s worth it.

Raul’s shows that "intense" debate can become ferocious.

And if any of you think this comment of mine is even slightly flawed —

                                                  "HOW DARE YOU!!!"


If Raul can do it, so can I.




Raul, what are you talking about? I have the ss300 you sold me. Can you provide some factory published information to support the idea that SAEC recommended drilling LPs? If you can, that would remove all doubt. If you can’t then maybe you can say where and how you got the idea. There’s nothing personal in this discussion so calm down. You have no reason to react so angrily.
Dear @bimasta : I can be wrong but does not means I posted because an " idea/imagination " .

R.