Give it or take there are no equal ears around there. Heard them (aiming to upgrade my 1Cs bunch of years ago) with 50Wpc tube amp and heard them with 200W/ch SS amp. In both cases they're too slow for rock and instrumental music I listen to. They also required to be standing on matching Sound Anchor stands which would make you to spend another $$couple. If you buy them used than most-probably the stands will be included.
