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Vandersteen help needed

I posted here a couple of months ago looking for assistance on building my first hi-fi system. Based on the feedback I received and auditioning a fair amount of equipment, I settled on the following components:

- Vandersteen 1ci speakers
- Belles Aria integrated
- Rotel DAC
- Audioquest cables and interconnects
- Source: Mainly streaming tidal through my phone

My room is 12’-10" wide by 11’-2 deep. I am setup on the long wall.
The speakers are 27" from the front wall and 22" from the side walls measured from the center of the speaker. The speakers are 9 ft. apart and about 8 and a half feet from my ears.

I’ve read the user’s guide thoroughly and spent a great amount of trial and error with speaker placement. I believe I have the correct tilt back of 2" and the speakers are towed in ever so slightly.

As for room treatment, I’m using the GIK Acoustics diffuser panels at the first reflection points. Nothing on the second reflection points. I have GIK absorber panels directly behind the speakers. I’ve also tried removing them from the room as well.

Here is the problem:

Instruments around the 1k frequency can be at times subdued and sit further back in the mix. What I’m talking about specifically are the lead vocal and snare. I never really get that crack from the snare drum. (I’m a drummer BTW).

Other times I feel like some of the higher frequencies get a bit muddled. I’ve heard others describe their experiences with Vandy’s as it sounds like there is a blanket over them.

By the time I turn up the gain so that these frequencies stand out a bit, the low end is exciting the room and the sound starts to become unbalanced.

I’ve begun thinking of adding 1-2 Vandy subs so that the low end can be offloaded from the 1ci’s and they can be left to focus solely on producing the mids and highs.

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to get more clarity out of my system?

Much appreciated,

Joe

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audiotroy
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Here is the simple solution trade in your Vandys and move on.

Vandys are a laid back speaker they are not particularly detailed or resolute they fall into the musical camp.

Adding subs will only add more boom to the room. 

I feel for the money the Vandy 1s are are a steal however, your listening tastes must align with their sonic profile, which is a warm midrange, a slightly recessed top end and a full mid bass. 

Other speakers have a different tonal perspective. 

We love the Dalis which have great detail yet are still warm. You might want to get another perspective and borrow a few different sets of speakers and try them out in your room with your new setup. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor
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audiotroy
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Sure they need a sub then why didn't he purchase a more expensive speaker and then add a $2,500.00 Codex, this man's original budget was $5k all in. 

So the real issue is how to fix that fact that this gentleman is not loving what he purchased. 

He should get his dealer involved and try another set of speakers in that room and perhaps that new set of speakers will do the trick. 

Mr. Rutan sells B&W and Proac, so there must be some models that might fit. 
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audiotroy
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The guy just spent $5k at  his dealers, his dealer should fix it for his customer.

Yhe man who in good faith bought a complete system and now he has to fix it himself by uping his budget and trying to find used the products in the first place that would dramatically increase his budget?

If you go to a dealer, you should get the service and support as well as the sound you have paid for.


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