Upgrade Path: CDP or Preamp


Howdy,
I'm a little perplexed. I've got the upgrade bug and I'm not sure how to proceed. I would like to augment my system by replacing either the CDP or the preamp. I'm not sure which one will improve the system's sound the most and give me the best sonic improvement for my money. I, of course, can replace one then the other, but which one should I replace first? For auguments sake my budget is around 1000 bucks for either component. I love jazz and of course a variety of current and classic rock. I mostly listen to cd's but I do have a turntable and a bunch of albums (these are less convenient to use since they've been relegated to the basement). I also use the tuner quite a bit for backround listening (the tuner in my preamp is poor, but I have a classic Mitsubishi analog tuner in another system I would use when I replaced the preamp). Overall the sound is good, minus the tuner. I know it can be better. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks in advance for your responses.

My system:
Denon DCM 370 changer sitting on a set of Vibrapods
Music Hall MMF 7 TT w/ Goldring Eroica Cartridge
Creek OBH 8SE MM phono preamp
B&K PT3 preamp/tuner
Odyssey Stratos amp w/ cap upgrade
B&W CDM 9NT's
Van Den Hul D102 III IC's connecting cdp to pre to amp
Monster something or other connecting phono pre to preamp
Monster 12 gauge speaker wire.
hammergjh

Showing 6 responses by hammergjh

"I am listening". Good advice, people. Some contrary opinions. I need to weigh these. I AM enjoying parsing through the feedback, though. Don't know what I want to do, yet. I am leaning towards a new CDP and the Jolida intrigues me. I don't have the opportunity to listen prior to buying one of these.

I also don't have the opportunity to swap out components w/ friends. Hard to believe, but I personally don't know anyone w/ a system as good as mine. I'm going in blind, to some extent. I did w/ the Creek, the Music Hall and the Stratos.

Keep 'em coming boys and girls. This is almost as much fun as slapping in a new disk and turning up the volume (until my wife turns it down, that is).
Hi everyone. I am not dissatisfied w/ my TT. This is a keeper, sounds fine. Although, ergonomically, it's a little funky (it sits on only 3 feet and tends to tip when I lift up the dust cover). I'm really thinking along the lines of upgrading the CDP and preamp. If the new preamp has a phono section, fine, I can sell the creek. I'm not sure how good the Creek is, it's supposed to have a good rep, though. I have nothing to compare it too.

Still listening, and thanks.
Resolution (temporary?)
Man, did I catch hell last night. I came home w/ a new Rotel RCD1072. My wife just glowered at me. Why did I pick the Rotel? It was available new in my area and not overly expensive (about 630 bucks). It is well built and got some good reviews. One needs to balance performance, WAF and $$$. The dealer, Spearitsound in Boston, has plenty of high end equipment ($75,000 for a pair of Siltech 80 w/ch tube monoblocks?), but I knew I wasn't going to spend the $1500 for the Cary 308, among others. So I settled for this one. Initial impressions are good. It is definitely smoother than my Denon, but subtilely so. I'll need a good week to really evaluate the unit. Time will tell.

Thanks all for responding.

Is a DAC in the future?
CDP Shootout:
Ok, after just over a week of burn in, here is my initial evaluation of the sonic changes in my system. The Rotel is definitely a subtle improvement, smoother treble and an extended bass response, better overall. This was more noticable w/ poor recordings. On good recordings, I couldn't really tell the difference.

Oddly enough, the Rotel is not as sonically quiet as the Denon (mechanically the Rotel is the clear winner, better transport, etc.). With both units powered up and not playing, I turned the preamp to maximum gain and switched back and forth between the two. The Denon was as quiet as any source input on the preamp w/o anything hooked up. The Rotel emitted a noticable electronic hiss. It disappeared when I turned the Rotel off. Do I care about this? I'd like some feedback if possible.

Thanks.
Hammer