Unsettled and considering changing stuff


I honestly have no idea why but I got an itch lately to change my main system. Probably that damned trip to Vegas to see the toys at CES. To my ears my system is very good and I haven't really changed much recently. So why the hell change anything? Do you guys get bored with your setup every now and then and swap things out even though the system as a whole is putting out some good tunes? In keeping with the spirit of providing all the information needed for other members to provide an informed opinion...

We'll start with the room...My room is roughly 14' x 25', cathedral ceiling that goes from 8'(back wall where the speakers are) to 20' (listening position). Persian rug of some sort on the hardwood floor. The speakers are on the back wall (standard sheet rock construction) about 4' from the wall and 3' from the side walls (toed in slightly) and about 15' from my listening position. Got a leather couch in-between the speakers but the Logan's are tall and don't seem to suffer much from having the furniture there. Directly behind my listening position is a set of glass patio doors but I have heavy drapes to take care of that. I have hospital grade outlets for everything, other than that no room tweaks. This room is the family room so doing room treatments and such is out of the question (I've tried every sleazy angle to get her to give in, no luck at all), and there really is no other room I can set up my rig. All in all not that bad a room anyway.

Music? My music collection is about 800 CD's and roughly 2500 LP's. I listen to my turntable 50% of the time, CDP 30%, tuner 15%, tape deck 5%. I listen to a wide variety of music but generally spend about 70% of my time listening to rock, 20 % blues, 10% classical. My musical tastes run from grunge (think Rage Against the Machine) through to Steely Dan but I spend the majority of the time listening to the likes of Dire Straits, Steve Winwood, Blue Rodeo, Peter Gabriel, Roxy Music, Sting, etc... Yeah, I like vocal based music, preferably acoustic.

The current system (I never turn off any of my gear):

- Oracle Delphi MkIV, SME345 Arm, Grado Sonata Cartridge (marble base)
- Lehmann Black Cube Phono Preamplifier
- YBD CD Integre CD player (remote)
- Sansui TU-517 tuner
- Nakamichi RX-202 Cassette Deck
- Rega EAR headphone amp (used along with Senn 600's)
- Balanced Audio Technology VK30 Tube Preamplifier (with remote, EAR feet)
- Balanced Audio Technology VK500 amplifier (with BATPAK, EAR feet)
- Martin Logan Quest Z speakers
- Sennheiser HD600 headphones, Cardas cable
- (2) 5' Synergistic Research AC Reference power cords (preamplifier, phono stage)
- (1) YBA Diamond power cord (CD player)
- (2) Harmonic Technology Pro AC11 power cords (amplifier)
- (2) MIT Z-Cord II power cords (speakers)
- (2) Maple Audio Works Ambiance interconnect (Black Cube, CDP)
- (1) Transparent MusicLink interconnect cord (Tuner)
- (2) Phoenix Gold RCA-Balanced interconnect cable (Nakamichi Deck)
- Goertz Micropurl 25' Balanced interconnect (preamplifier to amplifier)
- Transparent MusicWave 10' Bi-Wire speaker cables (spades)
- Nitty Gritty 1.5Fi MkII record cleaning machine
- Custom built oak stand for source components, preamplifier, and music. Amplifier stand

So what's wrong with the set up? What don't I like? I guess I find it less involving than it ought to be, sounds good but doesn't draw me into the music they way I would like it to. Wonderful detail, but not engaging. I suspect maybe I ought to consider changing the speakers but I'm not a box-speaker fan at all. Maggies? Maybe consider the Avantegarde Uno? If I went this route I'd sell off the amp too cuz the Uno are powered speakers and have the added benefit of being designed to be used right up against the wall (they even sell wall mounting brackets for this purpose). Or stay off the merry-go-round and buy even more music?
jeffloistarca

Showing 1 response by sdcampbell

Hi, Jeff:

You aren't terribly specific about why you are dissatisfied with the sound of your system, other than having a need to "scratch the audio itch" (which all of us understand). Your system, overall, is excellent, so it would be useful to try to identify what specific component seems unsatisfactory to you.

If I owned your system, I think I would start with a few small changes that might enhance the overall performance, since all of your major components are very good to excellent. The first area I'd tackle is your interconnects. To be frank -- and this is not a personal attack -- my opinion is that the interconnects you are using are not up to the standards of the components. Also, I am not a big fan of the "mix and match" approach to cables, although I know others will disagree with me. My experience, with my own systems and the systems I've sold in audio stores, tells me that you usually get better results if you stick to a family of cables, such as Kimber, Alpha-Core, MIT, etc., for all of the system. Sticking to one "family" reduces the number of variables that you must consider, and allows for more consistent "voicing" of the system.

If you do not find that cable swaps help, then you may need to make some major changes in the system. You have two transducers in your system -- the phono cartridge and the speakers -- and they have the highest distortion level of any piece of audio equipment. They also have the greatest variability in sound quality of any audio component, and therefore yield the biggest change in sound. I personally like the Martin-Logan speaker line, but maybe the Quests are not the best for your rather large room, so speakers is the next area I'd experiment with.

Last, since you use your turntable a lot, you might think about another cartridge and/or phono stage. The Grado Sonata is a good cartridge, but for a bit more there are better models. I upgraded my cartridge from the Sonata to the Grado Reference (4.5 mV output, $1200 MSRP), and was very pleased with the improvement of the vinyl playback.

I am using the same phono preamp as you are, although I upgraded from the original Lehmann Black Cube to the newer version with the PWX power supply. If you were to look back through A-gon's archives, you will find a thread I posted in which I gave a VERY positive review to the PWX upgrade. If you have not upgraded your Black Cube, then I STRONGLY urge you to do so. The improvement of the Black Cube with the PWX upgrade is NOT subtle, and offers a lot of improvement for very little cost.

Well, that's my 2 cents worth. In closing, let me thank you for the many good posts and contributions to you have made to this forum over the past several years. I hope the advice you receive to this post is helpful, but always remember our audiophile watch-phrase: "trust your own ears".