This mirrors my experience on moving from traditional wet vac to us cleaning. The difference was not in the traditional realm of dirt and pop click removal but more that after a thorough us celan (KL LP200) the disc sounds more seamless and integrated, more organic and as if the players are somehow more in tune with one another.
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Never make a cleaning solution with any solution that is deemed damaging to PVC. Never buy any solution unless its content's are listed. Compare both to the PVC CHEMICAL COMPATIBILITY CHART, many such charts are on the web. Alcohol in the quantity used is detrimental to PVC and the plasticizer, liquids like photoflow are anti surfactants, mono polar, not to be used to aid in surface cleaning.
Couldn't agree more.I went the DIY route and my records have never sounded better. Bought a 10L Ultrasonic tank with a really nice record spinner , I only clean two albums at a time. 20 minutes per cycle with water temp at 38 degrees C. I use Steam Distilled water in the tank.
I use Versa-Clean from Fisher Scientific at a 40 to 1 mixture so about 6 ounces as the tank holds approximately 240 ounces. The Versa-Clean is specifically designed for Ultrasonic cleaners and vinyl records .
I use a capful of Photo-Flo per tank. Once the cycle is complete I run it thru my Nitty Gritty 2.5 cleaning machine while washing off with Steam Distilled water the Versa-Clean and Photo-Flo using the vacuum on the record cleaning machine.
My trusty Nitty Gritty 2.5 bit the dust after 18 years of use so I ended up picking up the Record Doctor VI while manual compared to the NG 2.5
It does the job of vacuuming off the excess very well although you have to turn the record yourself. No big deal.
Since I posted this last year I've changed the mixture and routine a little.
With dirty records Ultrasonic cleaning is the best. I would still add like 1% ethanol or 2% isopropyl alcohol to the distilled water. You will get rid of the oil based deposits like finger prints better.
Having said this there is no type of cleaning that will make a new record sound better and as long as you never let it collect static and get dirty you will never have to clean it. I have never bought a used record. I think it is a crap shoot. I would if I got the chance and the price was right buy a large collection, say over 2000 records from an estate sale then sell off the records I do not like. One owner can not listen enough to one record to wear it out with a collection that size. Small collectors will buy a new hit record and play it over and over until they get bored with it or the next hit record comes along. With standard record hygiene they wind up building a collection of damaged records. These are the ones you have to avoid.
Noromance, glad you only paid $1.99 for the record. An 80/20 solution is WAY too much alcohol for records. Even 5% is pushing it. Agree on the value of ultrasonic cleaning, but really dirty records may still need a scrub.
I have bought lots of used "Mint" records, many still sealed, from Discogs and had very few problems with sellers. I was willing to pay reasonable prices. Many older records from the early 50’s are tough to find in great condition.
noromance ..... you're only cleaning for 7 minutes ?
I use a solution that's pretty close to yours but with the addition of a touch of Spray N Wash in the mix.
I clean 3 Lp`s at a time.
I set my timer for 30 minutes @ 1 rotation per 10 minutes ...3 complete rotations in all.
I`ll clean as high as 45C
I then vac with a Record Doctor.
Everything sounds great to me..just wondering if maybe I`m over doing it a bit !
Been playing around with ultrasonic cleaning for over a year. I have found that all surfactants do contribute to the sound of the LP washed with it. Currently I use a less than 2.5% isopropyl solution in the ultrasonic bath. Spin 3 LPs spaces 1.25” apart at 35 deg C for 15 minutes. No surfactants used. The isopropyl does somewhat lower the surface tension of the water.
Rinse and vac off with a clearaudio double matrix sonic machine with a minimal isopropyl mixed with distilled water. This So far yields the best results. The alcohol in the final rinse does make a an appreciable benefit.
Thank you for the kind response. I have cleaned about 20 records so far and the results have exceeded my expectations. All of my records had previously been cleaned with a VPI 16.5. I still use the VPI to rinse and vacuum the records twice after the US bath. I don't have a clear perspective on the improvement in the clicks and pops yet but the improvement in over all sound quality has been eye opening. Everything is just more there, more realistic.