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Would a Jolida 302B be a better choice? I know a fool and their money soon part and I am on a limited budget as I am retired, but I do like my music! 800.00 max, and that much would hurt!:) Your right Macdadtexas we will all be nothing but carbon and silicate ripe for the manufacturing of Chinese tubes one day and all of this will be somebody elses problem to figure out or sell.
No rudness intended. I realy do appreciate quality advice such as Vandermeulen and others. I always try to look at someones question with an understanding that the equipment in review usually represents their budget.As for most there is always something out there thats more expensive and better quality but alas not withen all of our reach. When I auditioned speakers for 6 months I learned quickly to only listen to those in my budget, as the others just spoiled my ears and left me depressed with what I could afford.:)
Once again no offence or rudness intended to anyone.
Can you see well enough to solder? There are kits that have a big folowing which could elevate your means.
Just exposing alternatives here as I suspect adding an amp under $400 isn't a big step up for your system as it satnds... but a DIY one for that amount or not much more might well be as their is a good amount of the preice in amps devoted to the labor aspect...
I saw some recently and felt for the $$$ they were a great idea to those who want to make their own, or simply are fixed by their means.
Then too is the thought of moving up later on and then waht to do with the inexpensive amp bought now? recouing it's cost could be problematic.
Again just thinking aloud.
The Jolida integrated amps are unique in that the volume control on their integrated amps are passive. You can easily use it as a power amp, feeding it from the preamp output of your Denon pre/pro. Just by turning the volume control all the way clockwise will remove this pot from the amplifier circuit. Hope this helps you.
As far as your question of the 502 vs. 302:
The 302 uses EL34 tubes and has the gorgeous midrange magic these tubes are known for.
The 502 uses 6550 which is more dynamic w/ a bit tighter control, but you will loose the magical lushness.
I had the 302 in a 2 channel HT system, from Jolida's owner, Mike's recommendation. There was a 3D human quality to music and movies that will simply stunning. As far as HT as you will use it dialogue in movies was absolutely inteligable at any volume level and music in movies was like being at a concert., and sound effect surounded you w/o 5.1. It was amazing!
Oldtexasdog, how large is your room and how loud do you like to listen to music? Also, what type of music do you most listen to? That should give us an idea of how much power you actually need.
Offhand, knowing nothing of your musical preferences and volume requirements, along with your $300-800 price limit, I suggest:
1) VTL ST-85 - here
2) Rogue Audio Atlas
3) Rogue Audio Magnum Eighty Eight
40 Or, if you can get by with less power(~35-40wpc) one of the many upgraded/modified classic Dynaco ST-70 amps in the ~$600 range
I'd give some consideration to Darkmoebius's suggestion about the Rogu Atlas amp. I have the Rogue Cronus integrated amp as the backbone of my system, and it is indeed a wonderful amplifier. The Atlas shares the same guts as the Cronus, and it has been very well reviewed (do a Google Search) by several audio journals.
I'd give some consideration to Darkmoebius's suggestion about the Rogue Atlas amp. I have the Rogue Cronus integrated amp as the backbone of my system, and it is indeed a wonderful amplifier. The Atlas shares the same guts as the Cronus, and it has been very well reviewed (do a Google Search) by several audio journals. Good Luck, and Happy Listening.
I just did a Google search for DIY audio amplifiers, Did some others as well but most of these links appeared in the first search.
There was or is a maker of finish it or built up as much as you wish that was popular and presented a great value although I can no longer recall the whole name I believe it began with Van as in German, Swiss, austrian, etc. They are a USA enterprise though.
Sorry I cant be of more help.
So try these if you aim to get the most out of your investment budget . Or wait a while longer, save some more and do better then.
I'd ask myself, what am I really trying to get out of this tube power amp? I don't believe that with the line up of hardware that you currently have, that surrounding any tube amp at the price point that you are comfortable with is gonna do much for you. I'd start with your cd player and pick up a Rotel 990 or 991, ....$400 bucks tops, then a good old solid state power amp, B&K 442 comes to mind, $450..... and then finally a Luxman C1000 or C 1010 Pre....... $400. When you hook up a system such as this you will get warmth and detail that you have never thought possible for the price point of 12 maybe 13 hundred bucks. It will be interesting to hear the progression of sound as you grow that system. Use the rest of your items for that surround sound system.
Any one of these items is gonna help you a lot. I'm all for tube power amps but buy one when the bucks are more plentiful.
Old texas dog,
I commented earlier on your request for Jolida 502/302 comparison. I see you are taking requests on other brands. One of the best deals out there is from a "Made in the USA" company. Cary Audio Design from NC has a budget line designed and made in the good ol' USA. Audio Electronics is made in the same facility w/ much of the same design and parts as their high end Cary line.
I have the Super Amp Mk II and it is a stunning performer and should be on your short list for consideration. Excellent build, superb customer service, and that Cary sound. I've had 3 of their products and the new Superamp is amazing. It comes stock w/ EL34 but you can roll KT66, KT77, KT88, KT90, 6550 and others w/o changing any bias resistors. They will ship it direct from their factory to your door w/o a middle man too. Yes they will be glad to take your phone calls too. Now that is service.