I use Herbie's tall Tenderfeet under my non-suspended TT. I've also used the ball/isocup combination. They only work if your platform is level.
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A turntable is a complex system and any vibration can affect the sound. I also found that VPIs were improved by adding brass cones; I used a different brand but would expect to get a similar result from the Bearpaws. Any table will be affected by external vibrations whatever the drive mechanism but there are differences. A massive table like the Aries Extended worked very well on a very heavy Star Sound rack but the LP 12 works better on a very lightweight torlite stand.
I have Thorens TD145, Clearaudio Bluemotion, Dual 1019, and Garrard 309. Garrard is with an old plinth and I am replacing it a new plinth. I will use Ortofon RMG 309 arm, and in the future, I will have an SPU cartridge. All other tables are with stock plinths and feet, and I don't worry about them, but I need to install new feet to the new plinth for Garrard.
Many forum posts suggest to try a few different feet and see which works best for me. I may do that by myself in the future, but I am interested in what other people are using and what is best from their own experience.
I put my TT on a wood platform supported by Vibrapods and cones, which cost about $8 each. Its very effective. You can call the manufacturer and tell them what TT you have and they will set you up with the appropriate pods and cones (they have different levels of stiffness depending upon the weight of the gear to be supported).
Me too! I'm listening to my TT sitting on Vibrapods and Cones as I write this. The cone-on-pod comes to $14 per unit (the isolator pucks are $6 ea), but I challenge you to find *any* footer that comes close to what these do anywhere near the price. They have a 30-day money back guarantee. Why spend more before you ascertain that you *need* more?
If you can't quite level your rack to use them, you can always place file cards under the pods until you get the platter level.
I went it even one better and placed the whole thing on a 3-1/2" thick maple butcher block cutting board with silicone gel pads underneath. Those extras helped, but the Vibrapod cones and isolators do the heavy lifting.
09-11-12: StringreenIf you want to find Bearpaws, go to edensoundaudio.com. The Vermontaudio site has been decommissioned. You can get similar items from Mapleshade.
Still, for my money I'll take Vibrapod Cones and Isolators.
Just switched to Edensound's TerraCones for my Scoutmaster. This was a significant upgrade. Immediately I noticed an increase in clarity. The soundstage became more three dimensional and the presentation more forward. I also made the switch with my speaker's spikes to his TerraCones with similiar results. I can't believe this guy's stuff.
I just installed bearpaws on my classic 1. I haven't had a chance to do a sit down and really listen. I just spun a couple of tracks but, I can hear a difference. I can't put my finger on what I hear different just yet but, it does sound good. I also glued up a 2" maple butcher block today. I am finishing it tomorrow. I will report back when I have everything setup and get to listen extensively. I will say the build quality of dan's bearpaws is impressive. Very good quality. They are heavy weight solid brass. I'm not sure if he CNC cut these or did them on a lathe but, his machine work on these footers is great. Nice product.
The Vibrapod Cones work very well with the points facing up. The addition of Vibrapods below the cones can help, but the results are variable. I use CD "coasters" between the base of the cones (or the Vibrapods) and the surface to provide the ability to adjust for level.
Make sure to use paper between any of the Vibrapod products and the surface against which they rest since the black material can interact with surface finishes.
After 20+ years of trial and error with over 15 TTs owned I've come to the following conclusion, 3 adjustable brass cone footers sitting on top of a sandbox. I made my own sandbox for $22.00 and I currently use Dyton Audio adjustable brass cone footers that I bought on eBay for $35.00 including s/h.
Ah, the age old question: is it isolation or coupling? The big boys couple to the isolation stand with cones and also couple the isolation stand to the floor. To make things much more complicated, there is a hierarchy of cone materials, in order of desirability something along the lines of ceramics, steel, aluminum and brass. Generally speaking of course.
With a variety of turntables, I like also like the basic Mapleshade isolation system, but with the 4 Isoblocks replaced by 3 or 4 cryo'd mini-springs ("Baby Promethean Mini Isolators" from Machina Dynamica) supporting the thick piece of maple.
An occasional turntable/plinth design like B&O doesn't allow for easy positioning of footers against the turntable/plinth itself.
Many a turntable can be directly supported by the thick piece of maple, which in turn is directly supported by the cryo'd mini-springs.
This abbreviated approach is easy, low cost, and audibly beneficial.