Tube Preamps...I'm sold


At the constant urging of my friend I finally decided to audition a tube preamp (Eistein The Tube). All I can say is I am completely sold on the benefits of tubes in my system. I am not sure I have the vocabulary to describe what I heard but everything just sounded right. Vocals has a realism that made it seem I was in the same room as the musician. Instruments sounded like they were supposed to. There were details I have never heard before. What is amazing to me is that I have what I believe to be a pretty good ss preamp (Classe CP-700).

Ok, now for the hard part...finding the right tube preamp. The Einstein is amazing but I want to audition more. Can anyone suggest a tube pre in the range of $10K and less? I would love to some one with an output trigger and very fine volume control (0.5db). Thats all I need.

Thanks in advance.
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Try a ARC Ref 3 or wait for the new BAT VK-32/52 series to be revealed at the CES in another week. The Calypso is also a good recommendation, though not quite as quiet as the BAT or the ARC, it is unbeatable at it's price, me thinks.
Clfcarney, you do sound like Teajay's non-committal on the Shindo gear is hitting you particularly hard. First off, you are not a dealer or have any finacial involvement with Shindo by any chance, do you? I ask because your threads certainly smack of hyper-enthusiasm for the brand, almost like there is a monetary tie.
This may not be the case, maybe you are just new to the hobby and very loyal to this brand. Maybe defending it so enthusiastically helps you solidify purchase decisions that you've already made, who knows?
The point is, it appears to this unbiased viewer that you are blindly loyal to Shindo for some reason. You like the sound of Shindo, that's fine, but to question another's choice of preamps or sources, and denegating them because they don't mirror you own, shows either lack of experience or some financial investment.

These threads have been used before by those to schill their own products, see D&K. If you are not making money, and you are simply not experienced enough to know that system synergy is more important than any one piece of equipment, then perhaps this can be a valueable lesson for you. Teajay is allowed to NOT LIKE Shido equipment, and you are allowed to LIKE it. You don't need to be offended, he's not questioning your purchase decisions. Why does his choice of source, speakers, amp and preamp irritate you so much? Why is he not allowed to enjoy his system? Why do you feel the need to express that your opinion holds more value than his?

It is really sad to watch. I hope that you can learn to play well with others.

Happy New Year,

John
hehehe....Einstein The Tube intrigued me too, but I found the (18) 6922 tubes to be more of a turn off than the price of the preamp. Can you imagine the re-tubing costs??? Especially if you want to play with NOS Amperex, Siemens, Mullards, Telefunkens, etc!!!!
I mean I once had a tube phono stage that used (8) 6922's, and that cost quite a bit to play the tube-rolling game.....

Cheers,
John
I waited 32 days for Ref 3 to arrive, and now I have to wait 3 more days until I can set it up. I hope it's worth the wait. C'mon Monday..........

As for looks, it's OK. I've seen better, I've seen worse.
It's decent enough looking, but I do wish it was a bit smaller.

John
Funny that Tpinson has just revived this thread, since I noticed that the OP has given up on tubes and gone back to the silicon side.
So much for being "sold" on tube preamps, huh Tommy?
Relax, I'm joking. I know how all things audio are in a state of constant flux.

Cheers,
John
Hey John,

Are you currently in the Aria WV Founders Club? When is Michael finally planning on shipping these out? He's been talking about this Whole Vinyl preamp for almost 4 years now. Development can't take that long, can it?

Cheers,
John
Thanks John. Knowing Michael's work I bet it will sound great, though the longer it takes the more people will expect I would think. It doesn't sound like it's for me though, with no remote. Sorry, I just can't go that route. I would like to get everything into one chassis, but on the other hand, I'd hate to be burning expensive NOS phono tubes if I am listening to cd's or gasp...HT. That is one advantage of seperates. I considered that Aesthetix Janus for about 2 minutes, until I realized I'd have 8 phono tubes burning all the time, whether I was spinning vinyl or not. Call me cheap, but some of those NOS tubes are going for more than $200 a pop now. Multiply that by 8 and you're getting into some serious cash flow.

Anyway, I really am enjoying my Ref 3, and have no further plans to upgrade. I hope that you give me the full write up on the WV when it comes out.

Cheers,
John
BTW we are hoping to show a remote system for the MP-1 at either RMAF or CES...
Atmasphere

You sell out!!! J/K

BTW, I'll have to find out if I can get a listen.......sorry, but a remote is mandatory for me (as well as fully balanced). I'd love to put a remote version of your MP-1 up against my ARC Ref3......it would be very interesting.

Cheers,
John