Tube issues, 12at7 affect KT88?


Hello. I have a McIntosh 275V. I just tube rolled my 12AT7's. Started listening, and one of my power tubes, a Penta Labs KT88 went bright cherry red. I shut it down quick, let it cool down and swapped back. Looks like it's back to normal. Letting it cool down again and I'll swap tubes again and see what happens.

If it goes cherry again, what would make the 12at7 affect the power tube like that?

Thanks in advance,

Tony
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No I did not. I will be getting them tested. I swapped them out, seems to work fine. Put them back in, same thing, one power tube started getting very hot. It's obviously something in the 12AT's. I think I have it down to a couple of them, as I placed them back in the same order with the same results, but I'll get them all tested.

I'm not very well versed in tubes, but that was my guess, a short. It made music with no weird noises, just ran that one tube very hot. Good thing I was watching closely as they were new to me tubes, and it appears I shut it down before any damage, other than maybe shortening the life on that one tube?

Tony
The power tubes were not moved. Only the 12AT7's. I swapped them twice, both times the Tele's ran the power tube hot, but just one. I replaced them in the same spots, so I think I have it boiled down to 2 of the 4. I was thinking about swapping them to the other channel, but don't want to press my luck. As far as I can tell, I didn't damage my speaker, and the power tube seems to be running normal with the old 12AT's back in. I will replace the power tube however, as going really hot like that probably shortened it's life compared to the others?

Thanks for the ideas, I will be getting the Tele's tested. Any other ideas? This is the first time I have encountered any issues when rolling.

Tony
Version V, newest version.

Heyraz, you are absolutly right. I am considering purchasing a tube tester.

HiFigeek, the weird thing is, only one tube runs away. I don't have the wiring schematic, but I'm guessing the first 2 AT's run the first 2 KT's, and the next 2 AT's run the next 2 KT's, with the 12AX's leading? That is what makes me think I have it narrowed down to 2 of the 4 AT's.

Tony
Hifigeek, looking at it from the side, back row is 4 KT88's.

Front row is 2 12AX, 2 12AT, 1 12AX, 2 12AT. I remember reading the first 12AX is only needed when run in stereo and not mono blocked. So I am assuming 2nd 12AX and 2 12 AT for first 2 KT's, 3rd 12AX and 3rd and 4th 12AT for last 2 KT's. But that's just a guess. It is the 2nd KT that gets hotter, which makes me think it's one of the first 2 12AT, probably the 2nd if my guess is correct.

Heyrazz, what is a DMM? Eyeballing the tubes, it appears everything looks connected.

Continued thanks,

Tony
Thanks. I had the tubes tested, and the one that was in the number 2 spot tested poorly, which I think corresponds with the number 2 KT88. I did plan on replacing it because I figured it severly shortened it's life. I'm going to have them all tested just for curiosity to see the differences in numbers.

Tony