TTWeights closing their doors


Has anyone heard of this, just caught a recent for sale item from them that mentioned they will be closing their doors for table manufacturing on 12/18/15.
audibleguy

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100% of TTW Products used certified aircraft grade NAFTA materials which means MANUFACTURED IN USA OR CANADA.

Machined on USA Built Hardigne Machines also, these are sold but cost 300K per piece.

We use motors and servo controlers that cost 10 times the competitors and materials that were high grade but the average audio guy falls for the BS marketing and pays 5K for a table that costs 900 to build LOL. 
Yes VPI is made in USA and the motors are $75.00 products, our servo motor is $550.00 US plus $400.00 for the control board.....just got o HURSTS website and look.

The VPI tables are not in the same league as TTW tables .....  not even close.

They have the best marketing but far from the best tables and that is a fact !!

We did not have to close our shop but....just sold my company for a ton of cash, LOL.

We did not go out of Business, meaning we  chose to sell our shop and take the money vs. Building cheap shit and making money.

There are many ways of making more money than in manufacturing, I have been machining for 35 years and have owned my own business since I was 19 years old.

 We had 2 Million dollars in equipment and owned the building and all our gear. 

We did this out of passion not simply to build the cheapest table and sell it for the most money like the rest. We designed over 300 products, ALL original but have been copied all over the place. We did not go out of business,

 I made a decision to NOT COMPETE with cheap turntables, 

We did actually build a 4 tables with a cheap VPI Hurst motor/low cost inverted bearing, cheap laminated pluinth... and it cost 1 grand to build, was going to sell it for $2500.00 but it was just another belt drive. I could EASILY compete but I am not interested in building low performance turntables. 

Anyone can build a cheap belt drive (they come out of the wood work EVERY day another me too belt drive) there is nothing to it. But we are innovators and we sold a ton of RIM Drive (over 1000) tables and gear but the margins are getting too slim.

I admire VPI's business but not their turntables, they have a great business model, use inexpensive materials, use the same design in different packages, we could have done that it is simple,

But no thanks, our table(s) will now be legendary, you will not see a 100 LB rim drive turntable with tolerance of +/-.0001 (yes 1/10 of one thousands of an inch actually machined like aircraft parts.


The sound, you may be lucky to hear one some time but NO ONE sells their TTW Tables, well about 3 a year - thats a 99.5% customer retention rate

Vinyl will always rule, but I will not be making turntables JUST TO COMPETE

I actually love the vinyl music, and money was secondary.

Happy Holiday to you and your family,

It was fun,

Larry Denham

TTW Audio

Sorry you misunderstood Lewn and thanks for buying some of our ger, I hope you enjoy using our products. 

We are happy but sad to go, but the fun is gone and if one cannot be passionate about the products it is time to stop.

PS: Thanks for the hundreds of emails I could not answer all of them, but your kind words where much appreciated.


PS - VPI was founded 37 years ago...not 50
They built there first tables around 1985 .... so 30 years in business.

LJT - TTW 36 years in buinsess.
Just an FYI
Hi Guys, I did not "bash VPI" told it as it is.
No more mats, sorry shipped the last ones.

As I said, a 99.5 % satisfaction rate, you only hear about problems on forums, you will not hear from 1000's of happy customers but you sure here from the same jerks over and over and over and over.....

Cheers redglobe......he said....

There is really no comparable products on the market for center weights, periphery rings, turntable mats. Yes, you will find other products. However, they do not compare in design, craftsmanship, materials, universal fit, and value for price. I am very sorry to see their departure from the market. ``

Could not have said it better myself, thanks.


Interesting comment: Because we made the weight out of PURE BRASS they need to be maintained,,,well yes.

Other weights are brass plated, cost about 20% vs a pure brass clamp, geeze so sorry for using the real brass McCoy in our heavy center weights. 
QUOTE:
I did have one of TTW brass screw down clamps (2 pounds) for my VPI turntable but it tarnished often and I got sick of having to clean it..``

Go to ebay and buy weights (cheap aluminum plated)  that look the same brass plated - fake - LOL  
 
They even copied our base design, machined profile

So how does one compete when people cannot tell the difference any more.....