TT to another room, no vibs, better sounds?



Hi All,

A few years ago I thought I'd build a Turntable that is still about a year from being finished. The thought was mass is where it's at. If it's heavy it will take more energy to get it excited and vibrate.

After I picked up a few thousands dollars in parts my machinist asked me what I was trying to accomplish. My response was," The heavier it was the less it would vibrate."

He said, " Take it out of the vibrational environment and save money." I can do that soon and wonder if anyone else had the same thought and realized a cost effective improvement instead of spending more money on a better TT.

"Out of the mouthes of babes," Your thoughts,

ken
kftool

Showing 3 responses by dan_ed

Ah, Mafuta! A man after my own heart. There is NO getting way from my two bass horns. They easily energize the entire house. I'd have to move my table about 100 yards to the neighbors, but I don't trust them with my gear or my records. :-)

With due respect to Ken's machinist, there is much more to this than simply moving the table elsewhere. As others have mentioned there are the loses due to extended length cables, inconvenience, matching the load on the far end of the long cable to ensure the optimum transfer, etc. There are issues to address with this approach if you don't want to lose resolution. I have been trying to move to a setup more like what Elizabeth describes. However, for me that move would be to simply move the table closer to where my butt hits the chair after the stylus drops. It would be real nice to not have to walk back and forth across the room. I have worked through all issues on paper but what really holds me back is finding a 20-30' IC that will maintain the sonic presentation I enjoy now while not requiring a second mortgage to buy it.

I hear no feedback in my mass-loaded Gavia which sits right in between my horns. It may well be possible to get most, if not all, of the benefits of moving the table to another room by employing a sandbox under the table. It works very well for we Galibier owners.
Balanced helps with noise rejection, but does not necessarily mean resolution will not be affected by the length, IMO.
Cables over priced!?! No, really? :-) :-) Those same high priced SE cables you refer to all seem to have an even pricier balanced option. It is not the topology that people are willing to pay for. People who spend big bucks on cables do so for the way they perceive the cable to sound. Not because it is SE or XLR.

Any reasonably made SE cable will do just fine to about 25', but even then it is more dependent on the capacitance of the cable and the loads at either end of the cable. So, yes I would agree that doing long runs with SE may be trickier. I'm not an expert and I have forgotten most of what I learned on transmission line theory in school. But I have retained enough to know that while balanced design does have the benefit of noise rejection, this does not automatically translate into better micro/macro dynamics, resolution, inner detail. Whatever we chose to call it.

I have tried balanced components before, but I have gotten the best performance in my system with SE components. Does that make me think there is something inherently wrong with balanced topology? Absolutely not. As with any system it is the sum of the parts that determine the end results.